Image is of a tiny portion of Francis Rogallo's working
Thanks, John LaTorre,
for your time, quality care, and continued inputs.
Anything you see of your pet interest in the Timeline
or the absence of something
... you are welcome to help polish such.
For a long while on
I took effort to repeat explanation for my readers:
"Dr" Francis Rogallo (=., Stanford University, 1932; M.S. in
aeronautical engineering (one of the first in the nation on such major)
in 1935, and honorary doctorates from many institutions and people in
the hang gliding community, thus "Dr." is applied in those communities
that so accept him)
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In middle school I understood that corporations are entities that can be
created by citizens. I understood that this-or-that institution could gain
and lose following, gain and lose support, live a while and then
disappear, sometimes without even footnote. So, in middle school I formed
clubs and movements. Some clubs rose to have a "body" of their own. And it
was also then understood by me that people can gain titles in many ways
from informal to formal. And I learned that I was not, as you explained,
required to adopt the title impact of this-or-that entity or club or
And I learned that "just because 50 million Frenchmen
believed" something, that such count does not force fact. A freedom grew
in me about entities, titles, etc. I noticed that in some stories of humans
that we seem to be given the power to name things; that power at that
tender age meant to me that I could name things as part of creative action
and as a means to capture meaning. And I did appreciate that others might
not hear the same meaning; indeed, as I grew, I discovered that the "text"
inside people nearly assures that in the first hundred go-arounds, people
will not really hear each other with the meaning and deep text behind a
person's utterances; language is both communal and individual; the
individual Text is deep and nuanced to one's whole history. But
communication is worth the effort.
And I thank you for your
considered contributions to the dialogue.
My eighth grade social studies teacher Mrs. McLaughlin from Culver City
Jr. High School very pointedly personally instructed me that I need never
take a back seat to anyone as regards the standing of my own worth and
creativity. In that kind of light, the institution of Self-Soar
Association and the institution of U.S. Hang Glider Association need not
play second fiddle to any college or university with respect to granting
honorary titles to people, especially in hang gliding, as those two
institutions were foundational and for a strong while S-SA was the only
institution in the world for hang gliding; the context of hang gliders was
international in 23 nations before there was a competing institution. In
proportion, in context in a realm of specific activity, S-SA was more
prominent to its field than Stanford is to its own kind of field. No need
to wait on academia. At no time was anything forced on others as regards
Dr. Rogallo from the S-SA. Others approaching a culture or institution
also have a responsibility to get ready for differentness and different
meanings. One can say "cat" to the skies without having to carve out an
explanation of what that sound might mean to every ear, as such would
stifle the sounding agent who would put out "cat" to the airs.
The "Dr." matter was deeply covered last year with GH. I believe that he
brought in the old topic for some new reason. He and I must have spent
...I guess... about 10 solid hours on just that one fine point.
So goes the 100 go-arounds. In each round, there can be new and
fresh insights, so blessings may still arrive. Hearing what is meant
by "cat" evolves ... Growth can occur; opinions could evolve.
I suspect without at-hand text reference, that others before me dubbed
Francis as "Dr." In 1958 he was giving lectures to groups that all levels
of initials behind their names as he was show and telling about uses of
flexible and stiffened versions of his discovery. He won over a flow of
millions of dollars for exploring what he presented. By 1960 several
different groups were deeply modelling and wind testing versions of what
he pointed to. People hearing Francis from 1948 to 1970 had 22 years ahead
of me to call him different things. A strong robust literature search in
all of his territories and scenes would have to be done to bear witness to
his names and titles and respects. The toy kite world, the aeronautics
world, the hearing NASA world, the Ryan Aeronautical realm, the EAA realm,
the aeromodellers space, the Miller and Soaring space, letters, articles,
etc. all before my actions. The organs and memos of the interior of NACA
and NASA would have to be scratched to see how respect grew for the guy
that had a toy that had super potential for space entry variations; they
listened to him and watched his models fly, even with toy men clipped in
hanging in glides.
At ceremonies when he was so honored in his presence, I have not text
showing any denial of the honor to him. Also, he never denied what he read
in my publications. The first person in my 50 years of hang gliding
writing that I found questioning the matter is GH. But recall that GH
attributed Ph.D. to John Dickenson in order to put a hard bang against me;
then GH had to retract that "Ph.D" as J.D. told him such an apology had to
be brought out equivalently publicly.
My kids gave me a formal certificate awarding me a Ph.D. But I do not
list such as initials of academic credit. But Mike Markowski, author of
Hang Glider's Bible has written to me about me as
"Doctor Low & Slow". Fun. College math
students have called me Dr. Faust even after I informed that I did not
have a doctoral academic degree.
Here are today's hit counts regarding Rogallo and the "Dr." matter. Some
instances reached are person who are not our Francis). The quotation marks
in Google Search must be used to get the full response correctly. June 1,
"Dr. Francis Rogallo"
"Dr. Francis M. Rogallo"
"Dr. Francis Melvin Rogallo"
"Doc Rogallo" 0
"Doctor Rogallo" 2
(in Ken's group, and not otherwise)
Stanford has in confidential files a written suggestion to award an honorary doctorate to Francis
Rogallo. Among those urging a similar act was aeronautical engineer Mike
Markowski who fully voted for such to take place.
Energy kite systems will be needing sailmakers.
John, do you place a space between "La" and "Torre" or not? Thank you for
clarifying this for me. I notice others have a space and some not; and I see
your use in Yahoo with no space. Do you hold it proper for yourself both
Some possibly fun historical images are attached.
Best of lift to you and yours, John,
(Last edit: June 2, 2009)
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