Association of America
"By the way, we're only accepting Founding Members
until July 4th, 2010.
Anyone who joins by midnight on the 4th (anywhere in the world)
will be considered a Founding Member.
It doesn't cost anything and anyone who supports hang gliding is welcome."
You may give your name and e-mail to
we will get you onto the Founder's list.
Want to join a hang glider development committee that is focused on
bringing the bones of hang gliders into full double-purposing as electric
ultracapacitors with the intention of launch e-assist from flats?
Send notes for development: e@HangGliderMagazine.com
"The frame is made with _____ custom seamless 6061T6 aluminum."
"our 6061-T6 is a seamless drawn domestic tube"
"The ______ uses
tubing" T4? O?
"The ______use carbon fiber forms"
"The ______uses quality bamboo"
"The ______uses a combination of materials and structure so that the
airframe bones double-purpose as ultracapacitors"
and extruded structural
aluminum tubing, cold-drawn??? What to make of the options? Proofing? Inspection? Logging events over safety-critical parts?
Age? Storage record?
Loma Linda Hospital June6: "Linda Dunn
Happy to report that Bill looks great. He is his feisty smiling self. His
lungs are fine. 3 broken ribs & bruises (righst side) with bruised right
arm. He said he may go home today."
"Dog Gone Bill"
the very best flying line arrangement
(line choice, termination method, log of use and exposure,
inspection method, replacement-decision profile?
Hidden fractures? Hidden creep? Hidden fatigue? Hidden corrosion?
ONE day: HG airframe will be double
purposed as ultracapacitor; the sail will double-purpose as solar
charger. Field helicity visualization will be optimized and lift
will be entered smartly with low e-lift assist. Eventually cross-ocean
e-assist will occur by such methods and others, like self-kiting off
in joining a research group dedicated to achieving hang glider airframes
that are double-purposing as ultracapacitors for e-assist launch of FHG
just to 500 feet AGL? Second stage will be the charging of the
airframe via HG sail photovoltaics.
Churchill: “I don’t think words count for much now.
Only force of events can govern them.”
I pray to the ocean as my God....There is no difference to me...
I give my heart, my tears, my love..... what will we do ?
Do you watch the news ? Do you know how bad this REALLY is?
We need inventors and scientist to brainstorm every day... Then we need to
try... is your brain at work ? Please try I know you think outside of the
box..... The answer is outside of the box somewhere...
With Love and faith...
a very sad Joy
HGXC A little intro....I have been flying for
nearly 34 years now
having been one of those inspired 70's pilots
who saw the infamous Popular Mechanics article in 1972.
Discussion of the CGS
Hawk light aircraft. The Hawk is available as a Special Light
Sport Aircraft (SLSA), Experimental Light Sport Aircraft (ELSA),
Experimental Amateur Built kit plane, or a legal FAR Part 103 ultralight.
[Message activity using May figures is 21% of 2002 level;
at June of 2010: 743 members]
Learning paths that are distinct may be valid paths to rating and
Consider hermits. Consider hermits with Internet. Consider quite remote
Consider varied hang glider activity, the scores of types of
participation with a hang glider.
Consider the vast array of types of flying from GEG to very-high-speed
high-altitude cliff-launching in minimal wing.
Consider budget types. And more variables.
Consider profoundly the distinctions between:
Radical solitary learning, no oversight.
Solo learning with online univeral
critique. Each pilot with a wiki; I set one up on "Joe Faust" in
wiki space at SG's hanggliding.org Any observer can post critique over
my flying and conduct. An observer/poster advances in analysis and
judgement when they observe, compose, and post. The whole world could
benefit from the exposed learning and critique process. I am rating
myself while many others can be rating me on fine or gross aspects.
Coaching. A "hang glider pilot"
declares targets. A coach helps that person obtain the declared targets;
the coachee may change targets along the way. The coach does not take on
instructorship role and not teacher role. The hang glider pilot is
moving toward his or her targets under the synergistic dynamics of
coaching techniques. The hang glider pilote remains full responsible for
everything done at all times. This can be done online. The wiki tool can
be combined; and open universal critique could be part of the fun.
Honesty, frankness, reflection, vulnerability, listening, soaking in the
bulk of offerings, etc. are aspects that a hang glider pilot learner can
live to advance his or her progress toward targets.
Online instruction from teacher
Field instructor gratis but professional
Field instructor commercial and
Much is left blank above. This note is meant as a stub toward a rich
HGAA rating rainbow. I want to capture the variety of targets and
participation types. I want to go beyond a vanilla typing of hang glider
and hang gliding participation.
May we find a way to have a very quick entry to "I am a Hang Glider
Pilot" with just this and that knowledge, skill, practice. Here is my
open record, my open logbook, my questions, my expression of
self-analysis, etc. Otheres are invited to comment; I will comment on
others' open wiki pages. Flight park supervisors are welcome to pull up
my Internet wiki and make a decision...Yes, Sally, you may play on the
bunny slope here on this private property club flight part, etc.
Higher-performing gliders have the capability for the pilot to change
their geometry while in flight. The pilot pulls on a cord to tighten the
sail, and releases it to loosen the sail. A tight sail makes for a better
glide, but makes the glider harder to control. Therefore, (roughly
speaking) we use a loose VG setting while working thermals, and a tight VG
setting while crossing areas of sink in search of the next thermal. A second region of variable geometry regards morphing wing shapes
via variable extension, variable porosity, variable reefing, etc.
Mid-1900s deployments of hang glider sails facing some of these morphing
tactics. The future will see even more efforts in morphable wings for hang
June 19, 2010, glossary at HangGliding.org
Triangle control frame (TCF)
The triangle control frame in some hang gliders consists of tow side
beams approximately meeting at their upper ends near the wing's root
chord or keel; the two side beams's lower ends usually hold between them
a basebar (trapeze bar, control bar, speedbar, belly basebar, etc.). The
two down beams (legs, downtubes, uptubes, queenposts, etc.) and the
basebar form a geometric triangle roughly. The TCF generally needs
staying its position by struts or cables that communicate with the hang
glider's other airframe parts.
The TCF cable-stayed with hang glider pilot behind the TCF was
photographed and fact in a hang glider within a Breslau territory
gliding club in the year 1908. We still use such TCF in many hang
gliders of today.
Just as a geometric triangle has its degenerate instances, so the
TCF has known its degenerate instances; one important degenerate TCF is
where the two downtubes meet so closely that they become one (while
either the basebar or control bar becomes a tee formation in some
aircraft or simply becomes a stub or even identical to the end of the
downbeam; this format is the age-old control beam or control stick that
exchanges strut staying or cable staying with rigid staying to the wing
itself; see Bensen gyrocopter hang glider for such instance; another
before 1930 was the Spratt use of the cable-stayed TCF; another is in
the Paresev 1961c hang gliders. A degenerated TCF was instructed in the
1887 Beeson US Patent hang glider.
When skilled designers began to explore power, the TCF structure and
understood mechanics got morphed to holding takeoff and landing wheels
while also acting as two queenposts in some instances. In hundreds of
different aircraft before 1920, one can identify such mechanics
regarding the TCF structure. Even the William Beeson 1887 preempted the
Wanner and the NASA flexible wing hang glider flows. Spratt also used
the known TCF arts. After 50 years of evident instructions on many
formats of the TCF, one finds some mid-century use by NASA, Barry Hill
Palmer, Mike Burns, and then later others like Dickenson who had
experience directly already with the gyrocopter degenerate TCF from the
Actually, the mechanics of the TCF is found in the staying of
pendulumed variable-positioned weights of the early 1800s Walker
gliders. Wenham in the 1800s text and drawings indicated understanding
of the TCF arts. Notes on TCF are welcome to be shared at
notes@HangGliderHistory.com For instance, the hybrid hang glider by Tony
Prentice at his age 13 years had a framed wing and cord-only control
where the TCF was all cord format staying in tension during lift-off;
see LIFT in 2010 for Tony's drawings and notes.
June 19, 2010, status in glossary:
United States Hang Glider Association. This organization had a
brief life, as the owner then gave the name over via a non-competition
agreement to the later being-born United States Hang Gliding Association,
which see next:
The United States Hang Gliding Association. The name has
changed to USHPA to include an emphasis on the string-controlled
hang gliders recent decades called paragliders in addition to
frame-controlled hang gliders often abbreviated to "hang gliders". Both
the string-controlled and the frame-controlled hang glders are
mechanically hang gliders. The FAI also respects that paragliders are a
proper subset within the parent set of "hang gliders." Note too that the
Paresev hang gliders with framed four-boom collapsibility in 1961 were
indeed dubbed "paragliders" in contra-distinction to how that term has
become identified with string-controlled limp wing with nearly no
compression members in the wing canopy. There still is a chance that the
market will one day move into robust stiffening of paraglider canopies by
various means (beams, whiskers, inflated beams, smart-triggering
limp-to-stiff-to-limp sails, etc. to fill out a near continuum of
flexibility-stiffness for hang gliders.
June 19, 2010, status in glossary:
Founding hang gliding organization with "OTTO" membership
designations. Ratings: "Hang glider pilot" and "Intrepid Aeronaut" with
100% pilot self-responsibility while having robust fellowship for sharing
information and flying critique. Low & Slow. Hang Glider
Magazine. Hang Glider Weekly. Hang Glider Business Weekly.
Hang Glider Manufacturers Association. S-SA communicated robustly into 23
nations. S-SA had a stint of being incorporated in the state of
California. Recently, the morph of S-SA are the two entities: World Hang
Gliding Association (WHGA) and World ParaGliding Association (WPGA) where
the first has a focus on frame-controlled hang gliders, while the WPGA has
a focus on string-controlled hang gliders which are mostly today (but
won't always be the case) the conventional canopy that has very very
little amount of compression material in the canopy assemblies. The
pilot-market will shape what happens to any type of hang glider.
"Many of the scientists and engineers who achieved
vital discoveries in aerodynamics described their
breakthroughs in terms of a special
capacity to “talk with the wind.” By this, they meant
visualizing what the air was
Theodore von Kármán (1881–1963) "“For advances in aviation in any real sense it
was necessary for science to catch up with the dreamers and experimenters
set a basis for further development in a rational manner."
"They could have been flying, or
at least gliding, in year 1200 A.D., since 100 mph airfoils were already
the leading source of industrial power, and perhaps they were making and
flying gliders way back then, and we just don't know about it."
Have a day!
Doug S. http://www.USWINDLABS.com
L'Homme-Oiseau de MIGNET
Vieille carte postale représentant
Henri Mignet et son planeur-brouette HM 5
Notice TCF and parasol high hat wing. TCF helps on takeoff and landing
and a holding of mass. This is a powered version with aerodynamic
controls ...an evolution from arts found earlier in TCF in HG.
Click through for more story.
Temporary hang glider realm includes integrities lasting only a few
minutes for Dockweiler-only type sled glides. After a few minutes, the
integrity of the hang glider reduces to a status that needs recharge or
re-formation. Known integrity leak rates provides grasp of
integrities for one flight at a reset within specified integrity time
zone. This temporary hang glider is different from
disposable hang glider. Another realm is the class of
disappearing hang gliders.
Some special sorts of hang gliders:
Temporary hang gliders
Disposable hang gliders
Disappearing hang gliders
Invisible hang gliders
Virtual hang gliders
Mental hang gliders
Digital hang gliders
Fantasy hang gliders
Art hang gliders
Invisible hang gliders
Giant hang gliders
Tiny hang gliders
Toy hang gliders
Payload-transport hang gliders
Very high high-hat hang gliders
Vintage hang gliders
String-controlled framed hang gliders
String-controlled non-compression-member hang gliders
Frame-controlled hang gliders
Tandem-wing hang gliders
Biplane hang gliders
Thin airfoiled hang gliders
Thick airfoiled hang gliders
Very slow hang gliders
Very fast hang gliders
Monoplane rigid wing hang gliders
Tri-wing hang gliders
Four-wing hang gliders
N-wing hang gliders with N stepping over O, 1, 2, 3, 4, ...
Stacked-wings hang gliders
Hang gliders for leg-less pilots
Hang gliders with frame double purposing as ultracapacitor for
Pronounce "ultralajt" as English
"ultralight." I try to use username "Ultralight" on forums that I log
in, but mostly this name was already taken.
(many forums regarding ultralight flying, design, build, and many RC
So, I simply write that name as we write it in my country (Slovenia)
It sounds exact like you said "ultralight" (in English) , but we write
And why Ultralight?
Because I have flown with hang gliders since 1979; built a couple of
hang gliders of my own original design; designed and built and
flown two paragliders; designed, built, and flown a Minimum pilot pod
for HG; designed, built, and flown composite trike for HG; flew with
ultralight aeroplane, sailplanes; but lately I am deeply involved in
RC model design, building, and flying.
Of course, I still have dreams about designing and building my own
ultralight sailplane, that will be foldable as an rigid wing. It is
pity that years go by so fast…
Good topic heading that upon answering might affect Mission Statement
Broad brainstorm on how we can face the approaching newbie:
1. Open a wiki on their name at their permission. Section for their
interest declaration. They are to practice posting their personal
targets. Questions to them: Will they invite commentary in a section of
their member wiki from others that observe and/or review stated targets.
Section on their declaring what they know about topic in their target.
Mentors and coaches can post notes and links fit to the targets stated.
The new person gets attention, welcome, response. Teams of HGAA gratis
mentors can review the sections of new member wikis and post comments.
2. Do you declare yourself as a "learning hang glider pilot" yet? Have
you observe the assembly of a hang glider yet; how many times have you
observe the assembly of a hang glider? Disassembly. Have you read a
manual for any hang glider yet? Invisible wind; what are the steps you
are taking to get sensitive to what the wind is doing? Do you have any
questions about the wind? What are your goals concerning wind?
3. ....etc. ...(of what could be offered)
HOW MIGHT such clear offering affect Mission Statement?
...perhaps: HGAA will provide an immediate easy entry to become a
"Learning hang glider pilot."
The fact is: A US citizen of any age or condition could have, hold, and
use a wing to leave the ground with and glide today without paying
anything to anyone, without joining any club or association, without
getting observed or critiqued by anyone. And the person could do such
within limits and stay fully legal and safe within limits. HGAA could
provide a platform for growth, review, reflection, oversight, commentary
from others to pool awareness, so the limits may be extended safely;
HGAA could give sorority and fraternity. HGAA could give wiki
An HGAA member 2,000 miles away from NewMember may have a
that draws a limited coaching action for the NewMember.
Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:33 pm
This is a wonderful concept, Joe. There are a ton of practical issues
that would certainly need to be solved, but you're asking the most
important question in progress ... "Why Not?"
Of course, the resounding answer will be "It's unsafe!!", but I don't
think that's an absolute truth. I do believe
some people can learn
the way Joe has described. But they have to be very disciplined to stay
within the bounds of what's presented. Sometimes the best thing an
on-site instructor can say is simply, "No". The big question is how do
you get that "No" to the student when they're out on the hill away from
their team of on-line advisors ... and they have that urge to fly?
I think this is a topic worthy of a discussion forum, but it's not
something that we're going to resolve before the 4th. I welcome anyone
with thoughts to post them somewhere on this forum, and I'll bet you'll
have a great discussion with Joe. For those who don't know (especially
newer pilots), Joe was USHPA member #5 and he goes back to the founding
days of USHGA. I'll bet you'd enjoy talking about flying with him.
That just gave me an idea!! Joe, if you came up with an
instruction method, maybe you could try it out on someone who is just
beginning to learn under a current instructor. The idea would be that
the instructor would just be there to monitor the student and stop
anything that was unsafe. There would be no other instruction given. The
instructor would still have to be paid for that service (of course). But
the instructor would really be more of a "spotter" in this case, and it
might provide a way to test your ideas while minimizing the risks. Just
Bob, I'm listening. In my listening, permit me to
slightly change phrasing of what I hear from you on your idea for me to
1. Approaching new would-be-and-willing intrepid
aeronaut. Let this person be titled "Learning Hang Glider Pilot"
2. Life coach specializing in coaching people to become
the hang glider pilots they aim to be. Hang Gliding Life Coach (HGLC)
3. Field flight monitor/flight instructor. HGFFM
or HGFFI. FFM or FFI.
4. Community of hang glider pilots.
5. Community at large (affected persons, corporations,
and related properties)
Bob, you guardedly mention the practical challenges of
methods. And rightly, you direct me (I am interpreting what I hear
from you) to scientifically explore and report, so that
others may benefit from the explorations as large systems are formed in
say, the Hang Gliding Association of America,
and in hang gliding clubs around the
world. Agreed, such
matter will take more time way past the coming Fourth of July, 2010.
Each of the above five categories of players are in the
story, no matter the method LHGP follows for his or her flying story.
All players affect the others.
Some proposed talking points:
Many methods for progress by a LHGP are describable.
Many methods for progress are being practiced.
Will masters degree students choose to study the methods in detail; one
by one, and then perhaps in comparison among options?
Lessons of centuries of hang gliding are available
for forming awareness and affecting decisions.
When the flight bug bites, then wisdom is challenged.
Many good intentions are in jeopardy of being short-served.
As Glover noted, if the world knew how very possible
personal flight has become in hang gliding, our community of mentors,
coaches, and instructors could not handle the needs. Massive influx to
hang gliding would quicken stronger government control. Sad
incidents would increase and trigger airspace and land-use restraints
that would alter the scene for those who came to hang gliding for its
Types of potential participation have flowered to be
in the thousands. Some types of participation are being populated
more than others because of market and commercial influences. Most
stories are prejudiced by first experiences; LHGP hardly know about the
Motivations for shouting out one's enthusiasm for hang gliding may
be examined to some profit.
Motivations for "helping" others be well within hang gliding
worlds may be examined to some profit. Why have such as
HGAA or clubs or training systems?
Why develop supports for hang gliding coaching systems (HGCS), mentoring
systems, field-flight monitoring systems (FFMS), field-flight instructor
systems (FFIS), skill-progress rating systems, achievement systems, and
honor systems? Why? What are the potential blessings
of such systems? Are there downsides to having working and ready systems
of "help." Building the body of reachable knowledge and the choices of
known flight craft expand the set of potential options for a LHGP, yet
much of that set may remain hidden behind the trendy face of the hang
gliding world. Get LHGP on day-one into a Falcon 3 for a solo
flight and that LHGP may never have the practical energy to explore what
it might mean to short-pack a self-made "temporary hang glider" used
from travel in buses and trains for flying in ground-effect only to
spark aviation and science interest in elementary schools across a
nation while getting a terrific physical exercise for oneself during the
mastery of many GEG skills. But this reminds me of a UCLA commencement speech
paraphrased here: "We each cannot stay in this institution to path
through the full body of majors; leave here and establish a way in the
world to serve through some option."
Some opinions that I have at the moment:
The drive to serve the flight bug found in the LHGP
may go with lapses in wisdom. Injury and fatalities are still
occurring. The scene could be far better than it is, even while having a
wider spectrum of participation styles and types.
First stage could be lengthened to great advantage
and benefit for all the player groups. Missed robust first stage is a
missed commercial opportunity. A little flight skill unsupported by
master awareness, tested attitude, sharpened judgment
HGC available to some LHGP
You: LHGP wants to be coached remotely and radically
to become the HGP wished.
Some $? per week is posted to HGC's PayPal account in
donation, not fee, for the priorweek's coaching. There is
no contract to pay. Freely donate each Friday. LHGP ever takes
100% responsibility for results and effects of LHGP's actions.
Progress varies to the person.
LHGP would fly on day one, but in perhaps unexpected
Private e-mail and private web space would assist the
progress. In addition, a public wiki would be optional.
LHGP would be interfacing the world of aviation and the world of
hang gliding socially and physically, but would not meet or phone HGC.
tag: TCF triangle control frame on kite glider,
1954 cover of August, 1954,
Mechanix Illustrated, aircraft registration N3785C, with pilot
hung behind the airframe part TCF. Read inside for the story of the cover,
with more photos. Bensen kite-glider, a rotary-wing hanging-pilot
glider featuring the triangle control frame airframe part apexed at the
wing. In 1908 there was in a glider club in Breslau a hang glider
with the cable-stayed triangle control frame found still in our present
hang gliders. JD flew a gyro also and was aware that his control stick
(which was actually a degenerate TCF) in the popular giro of his day. The
shown Bensen airframe control of the kite-hang-glider-- mechanically the
airframe pressed by the hung pilot giving a weight shift control, was well
known in the first decade of 1900s and actually much earlier in a
batten-saturated flexible-wing hang glider! Common understood art by
skilled aircraft craft people! Newbie amateurs were ever excited
about finding that which had already been invented; sometimes the
excitement would grow to be a frenzy; happy days, "I have invented the
wheel again and again!" Fun!
Working yet: Flight, Dec. 18, 1953, page 815 American Helicopter, Vol. 29, Issue 1, December, 1052, page
His work in manipulators and many aspects of airfoils in the
1940s made it easy for him to know the gimbal to be used with the TCF with
hung pilot. Explore is varied inventions leading to his rotary
kite-glider. General Electric Company. Archives of GEC would
be interesting. Collected works of Igor Bensen? I sense
how he thought of turning things that have complex connection with other
turning things, but still keeping seals.
Flying boat patent with TCF mechanics degenerate two downtubes as one, but
T basebar, but still in control-wing function.
drawings needs to be rotated 90 degrees: Click through each
drawings to get to full instructions.
Further patent using the control-wing TCF mechanics. Igor Bensen saturated
the world with the mechanics; those control mechanics were evident in the
first decade of the 1900s and such are used in today's hang gliders.
Bensen in early 1950s managed to install the already-in-hang-gliding
weight-shift control system. He managed to use such mechanics
that had been exhibited by the 1908 Breslau gliding club where
the triangle control frame was cable-stayed; we still use the same
system in most of today's hang gliders. The car-carried kite-glider of
gained a high press following and hobbyist and sport following with images
in literature throughout the world.
Bat 21 (1988) is a war film starring
Gene Hackman & Danny Glover where Gene's character is stuck behind Viet
Cong lines & conjures up a kite-based spin-sock electrical generator to
power a radio link to coordinate Danny's rescue efforts.
Waterworld (1995) presents a post sea-level rise Earth where
Kevin Costner's character sails around in a bad-ass trimaran. Chased by
armed pirates on jet-skis, he deploys a ballistic folded Cody War Kite, of
all things, & thus kitesailing escapes.
The latest AWE movie is an Austin-based (aka "Little Hollywood") project
Brooks disclosed last year about the dramatic birth of clean kite power
for a world in crisis. Based on our true story, but with humorous
exaggeration. Great visuals. Play yourself. Proceeds from the movie will
support the next round of AWE
development & a possible sequel.
"Welcome to the Mother Lode Sky Riders web page. MLSR is a group of
pilots who fly near the base of the Central Sierra Nevada mountains, in
the Gold Country of California. The club is responsible for the regulation
of one site, located near the Horseshoe Bend Recreation Area at Lake