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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28000 From: dougselsam Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Re: The power consumption as the Magnus Effect Balloon or the Sharp
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28001 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Our forum's history
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28003 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Tailed Turbines
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28004 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Forum is going on hiatus status
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28007 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Forum is on hiatus
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28008 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Re: Beyond the Sea Project
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28009 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: SkySails
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28010 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: AirSeas
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28011 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Re: Beyond the Sea Project
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28012 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Re: Our forum's history
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28014 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Re: Our forum's history
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28015 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: KiteBoat Project
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28017 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: BERKELEY KITE FESTIVALS
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28018 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Search this forum
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28019 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/31/2019
Subject: Pacific Sky Power
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28020 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/31/2019
Subject: Tensairity or splinting tactics for ram-air beams in kited wings
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28021 From: dave santos Date: 7/31/2019
Subject: Re: A specific AWES changes continuously.
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28023 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/3/2019
Subject: Flygen Fire Hazards?
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28024 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/5/2019
Subject: Re: Latest Altaeros News?
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28025 From: dave santos Date: 8/5/2019
Subject: Scaling Post flagged on New Forum
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28026 From: dave santos Date: 8/7/2019
Subject: Secret Life of Kites- Imprinted Line Twist
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28027 From: dave santos Date: 8/8/2019
Subject: Local Melting Failure Mode of Kite Lines
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28028 From: dave santos Date: 8/9/2019
Subject: Hydrodynamic Spin-Lattice Models for Kite Networks
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28029 From: dave santos Date: 8/9/2019
Subject: "Tethers in Space" Conferences (AWE Connections)
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28030 From: dave santos Date: 8/9/2019
Subject: Re: kPower's current testing
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28031 From: dave santos Date: 8/10/2019
Subject: Nature Letter warns of increased global wind turbulence
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28033 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/10/2019
Subject: Re: Nature Letter warns of increased global wind turbulence
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28034 From: dave santos Date: 8/11/2019
Subject: Amyx's "free lunch" engineering employment offer
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28035 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/11/2019
Subject: Caribbean Foiling Championships
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28036 From: dave santos Date: 8/11/2019
Subject: Re: Caribbean Foiling Championships
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28037 From: dave santos Date: 8/11/2019
Subject: Tethered Particle Test Method
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28038 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/12/2019
Subject: Holographic Universe


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28000 From: dougselsam Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Re: The power consumption as the Magnus Effect Balloon or the Sharp
Obviously by "we", Pierre meant "everyone concerned".
Joe you seem to have real problems with word meanings, and even just using the English language.
You seem to also have trouble running a discussion group since I remember having messages censored for just mentioning the English language.
If I were you, I would just concentrate on running your forum.
It is quite an archive.  Too bad the search function doesn't work though...
I'd say, forget about expressing any opinions yourself - you seem kind of "out-of-it", sorry to say.
I think a main reason you guys started this forum is the same reason a friend of mine who loved to play in bands but was a terrible musician wanted to buy a bar: so he would have a place to play.  Next he would have probably had to offer free drinks, and a lot of them, to keep people from leaving.
No existing bar would have tolerated him as a musician.
In this case, there was no "existing bar" for AWE specifically, but there were wind energy forums, which you would have been disappointed to be the target of censorship rather than the one censoring everyone.  Wind energy forums are not interested in nutcases - it gets old really fast.  They kick people out for promoting bad ideas - imagine how long you would last promoting "providing shade" as "wind energy"!   Bzzzzt - Seeyaa!
Unless you guys are running the forum, you'd probably both be kicked out for being completely nuts, or at least not taken the least bit seriously.  Anyway, have fun never making any power...  :)


---In AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com, <joefaust333@...> wrote :


Pierre stated for his "we" :
"For an AWE we will never have a wind turbine as efficient as a current ground-based wind turbine, but the space used is far larger. "

That "we" of Pierre's does not include other members and teams in AWE. Rather, the whole question is still very open about AWE; even right now there are some AWES that are more efficient by some measures than current ground-based wind turbines.   AWES need not have rigid massive towers that cost greatly; AWES uses line tethers to reach better wind resources; tethers may be adjusted to let working parts enter best winds. Density of AWES depends on design; AWE is young and dense use of vertical wind frontal space in AWES farms are in visions for development; AWE is not stuck on single small wing with single tether. AWE network with vertical development and broad lateral development may leapfrog past ground-based towered wind turbines in terms of effected use of ground space.

---In AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com, <pierre-benhaiem@...> wrote :

"Does a magnus rotor somehow work better than a wind turbine rotor for extracting power from the wind?"
No, a Magnus rotor can provide lift and probably scale better.
For an AWE we will never have a wind turbine as efficient as a current ground-based wind turbine, but the space used is far larger. 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28001 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Our forum's history
Recall in March 2009:
From: Joe Faust
Sent: Mar 18, 2009 10:01 AM
To: AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AirborneWindEnergy] Welcome ... with AWE

Welcome All.
We are in a seven-day construction of the initial phase of this group. We are adding member who have a presence in the EnergyKiteSystems. net list; Yahoo limits us to 10 per day. Each member of this group may configure how messages from the group are received.

RAPID development of airborne wind energy systems is one of the targets of this group. Among scores of methods are some that involve bodies of water, for example, using huge kites to pull water-based turbines.

Feel free to post before we get the initial 70 to 80 members present. You may check the member list at any time. Add to Links and Files. Add to Photos. Invite serious researchers, designers, engineers, and scientists whom you know are interested in AWE.

Lift,
Joe
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28003 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Tailed Turbines

Tailed Turbines

Flygens and groundgens

Main wing tails or 

main-tether tails

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The topic has had roots in our forum. Earlier post points will be brought forward to this dedicated topic.

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Have main kited wings feature tailed devices (rotary, pulsating, HAWT, VAWT, ...). 

Transfer resultants through tail extensions to aerial vehicles or to grounded devices. 

Or transfer resultants through conduits through or integrated with the kited wings' tethers.

Or use resultants aloft in the kite-energy system. 

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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28004 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Forum is going on hiatus status
Posting, except by moderator, in this forum will go on hiatus as of today.  
  
Consider posting on other forums dealing with AWES. 
Thank you. 
Lift, 
Moderator
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28007 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Forum is on hiatus
Forum is on hiatus 

Posting, except by moderator, in this forum is on hiatus as of today.  
  
Consider posting on other forums dealing with AWES. 
Thank you. 
Lift, 

Moderator
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28008 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Re: Beyond the Sea Project
http://beyond-the-sea.com/
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28009 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: SkySails
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28010 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: AirSeas
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28011 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Re: Beyond the Sea Project
http://beyond-the-sea.com/
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28012 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Re: Our forum's history

http://www.energykitesystems.net/AirborneWindEnergy/Forum/50ormorepostsJuly30of2019.JPG
Those who had posted 50 or more times up through July 30, 2019.
Note, combined the second and third posters as one person for 7145 posts. 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28014 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Re: Our forum's history
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28015 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: KiteBoat Project
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28017 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: BERKELEY KITE FESTIVALS

Most recent Berkeley Kite Festival  in 2019

BERKELEY KITE FESTIVAL
JULY 27-28, 2019
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28018 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 7/30/2019
Subject: Search this forum

Search this forum


1. The Yahoo forum search tool is poor; many things are missed when using the tool. 


2. The Moderator has a full copy of our near 28000 messages in a folder that can search well comprehensively.  The folder is local to the Moderator.   Ask him for searches when the matter is of core special interest.    Else try the forum tool. 


3. Forum tool: over author, over keywords, etc. try it; then see the "Advanced" button on second step; but still that tool has poor functioning since several years ago, a known issue. 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28019 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/31/2019
Subject: Pacific Sky Power
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28020 From: Joe Faust Date: 7/31/2019
Subject: Tensairity or splinting tactics for ram-air beams in kited wings
Tensairity or splinting tactics for ram-air beams in kited wings
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Usually tensairity compression elements are upon closed airbeams.   But this topic aims to explore compression elements upon ram-air cells for wings intended for kiting. 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28021 From: dave santos Date: 7/31/2019
Subject: Re: A specific AWES changes continuously.
The Power Kite is the Tortoise of AWE. A healthy curiosity about everything else is good too.

On ‎Tuesday‎, ‎July‎ ‎30‎, ‎2019‎ ‎11‎:‎50‎:‎50‎ ‎AM‎ ‎CDT, dougselsam@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy] <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Tortoise picks something workable.
Hare is scattered across every known field of endeavor, and many unknown, without limits, such as Einstein, music, wiggling, providing shade, "Jesus", Wayne, Cristina, LLJ's, Wright Brothers, Wikipedia, Mernesto, ... whatever feeds the Hare's impulsiveness at any given moment, and serves as "one more distraction" day by day, ad infinitum.


---In AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com, <joefaust333@...> wrote :

Tortoise and Hare
T: Has some extra sensors on critical parts.
H: Has only power meter.
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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28023 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/3/2019
Subject: Flygen Fire Hazards?

Flygen Fire Hazards?

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The question cannot be ignored for long. 

Conventional towered wind turbines have been questioned. E.g. HERE.

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Wild fires?

Breakaway wings on fire?

?
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28024 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/5/2019
Subject: Re: Latest Altaeros News?

"The urban-rural digital divide persists because rural infrastructure is too expensive. 
Altaeros exists to change that."



ST for SuperTower by Altaeros. 
The aerostat is a kytoon or type of kite system that using inflated balloon in its kited wing. 
ST is being used as a communications device. 

When the wing is let up to fly, there is an opportunity to generate electricity on the ground, but such would be a minor matter compared to the communications benefits primarily intended for flying the kytoon.   
====================
The SuperTower uses autonomous, tethered aerostat technology 
to expand coverage to rural communities.

  www.altaeros.com (PRNewsfoto/Altaeros)
NEWS PROVIDED BY
Altaeros 
Feb 12, 2019, 10:08 ET

ST200

==================================


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Comments: 
  • As Altaeros helps to communications in the world, not that the AWES message may sooner reach more people because of broadened connectivity. 

  • The kite system  ST200 used for its main purpose stands to save the energy otherwise spent on 15 ground-based cell towers.

  • Does the ST200 have any RATs onboard its kytoon aerostat?
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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28025 From: dave santos Date: 8/5/2019
Subject: Scaling Post flagged on New Forum
Attachments :
    Not sure what the problem was with the New Forum post flagged below, I thought the scaling topic was going well; maybe the flag refers to Pierre's impression that I was "confusing" scaling effects he found "clear". Reposting the flagged post here, and leaving the New Forum aside for now, until immoderate Moderation moderates.

    -------------- flagged post -----------------

    [Tallak had questioned how much nominal cruise speed data correlates with stall speed]

    Obviously stall speed strongly correlates to cruise speed; I merely grabbed the first scaling graph in search to show what sort of scaling data all the fast AWES kiteplane ventures have been “clueless” about.

    An equivalently loaded (powered-up) kite the size of a 747 does recruit the mass of the actual 747 via the anchor. 75msec is Cat5 hurricane velocity, many times beyond probable wind. In this power class, a soft kite’s lower stall speed is highly favored, not to mention its crashworthiness.

    Tether scaling also is function of the kite window. German weather kites of <10m WS reached ~10km high a century ago (~1kite/km), and Peter Lynn worked on similar-sized yacht kites to go downwind in the open ocean at high altitude (>500m), but KiteShip developed far larger kites for 12m Cup yacht racing only flying low (~100m). Kite sports have similarly large ranges of Tether Factor highly independent of WS, from Kite-Fishing to ParaGliding.

    Pierre is right about AWES scaling being a confusing subject, but that’s not my fault here in presenting it as clearly as an introductory AE lecture.


    Inline image
    New Forum Original Page-

    Scaling by size
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28026 From: dave santos Date: 8/7/2019
    Subject: Secret Life of Kites- Imprinted Line Twist
    Knot and braid mathematics apply inherently to real kite line. Braiding can embody endless fractal twist-spin patterns. Line comes in all sorts of classic and modern twisted and braided patterns. In each case, the basic mathematical model is easy to see, but there turns out to be further line dynamic complexities that do not seem to have been formally identified before, although every kiter experiences them. Traditional twisted lines clearly act as helical springs, but we are more concerned here with modern power kite braided lines that begin twist-free.

    For years I have puzzled over how my power-kite lines somehow develop "virtual" twist even after carefully straightening them into a  locked topology of larks-headed lines, bridles, and anchor-points (bars or handles). Its not a huge operational issue, more a nuisance, but its seemingly impossible to remove all the mysterious twist. There seems to be different twist effects according to tension as well.

    What seems to be going on is a polymer creep effect based on how line is wound for storage. The line under variable wound tension line flattens over time in unnoticed ways. Then when you run the lines thru your finger tips intending to straighten them, you may be actually introducing twist that was not there. When you handle line, virtual twist (spin) statistics develop on a topologically straight kite line, when it acts like a torsion balance oscillator, as two self-cancelling mirror twists of opposite handedness. 

    The line also takes a helical set overall in the shape of the spool. Its also common for careless flyers to spool tight with real twist which then sets into a flattened twisted cross-section. Thus there are various sorts of overlooked twist can that can end up on the spool, and then set in by the polymer creep mechanism. 

    When it counts, like in competition, the ultimate is new line carefully pre-stretched. Line is perhaps best stored in a uniform slack condition, but be aware pre-stretched line will slowly creep back shorter over time in storage, and will need retuning at the bars or handles, especially if line-sets are stored in odd variable tension states.

    This is what the Secret Life of Kites is like; ever-deeper mysteries of rag, string, and wind. Closer study of imprinted twist on used lines is should reveal more clues.
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28027 From: dave santos Date: 8/8/2019
    Subject: Local Melting Failure Mode of Kite Lines
    Branching topic from line-twist to the curious thermodynamics of line failure. We knew that when line breaks it must be a melting effect right at the break, but we had not connected with supporting academic science until now. We knew working line rings and throbs with energy that can concentrate into shockwaves at knots or nicks, causing failure. 

    Here again we find the DNA model of polymer dynamics applicable


    "...Remarkably, the propensity to kink correlated with the thermodynamic destabilization of the mismatched DNA relative the perfectly complementary strand, suggesting that the kinked state is locally melted. The molecular vise is exquisitely sensitive to the sequence-dependent linear and nonlinear elastic properties of dsDNA."

    The "molecular vise" applies compression force, and we can see that kite line failure modes based on bending and twisting contain local compression forces. Perhaps compression transients in tensile media are a key failure dynamic. Sudden compression causes temperature to easily spike to UHMWPE melting temp not much higher than 100C.

    This is a critical failure mode; that a fast massive kiteplane may slack its line and then snub up hard, and a bit of twist force can create a hockle that jams and melts either partially, as damage, or melts apart (breakaway), in conditions that standard tether engineering calculations are not yet accounting for. 

    Multi-line topologies continue to look more and more essential to prevent AWES single-line single-point catastrophic failure modes.

    ============

    low-complexity quote-of-the-day-

    "The more ingenious our apparatus, the coarser and more unskillful are our senses."

    Jean Jacques Rousseau
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28028 From: dave santos Date: 8/9/2019
    Subject: Hydrodynamic Spin-Lattice Models for Kite Networks
    Longtime readers here will recognize closely shared dynamics between AWES Kite Network concepts (eg. Roddy's Daisy Networks) and Analog QM of walking-drops now progressing into Spin Lattice experiments-
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28029 From: dave santos Date: 8/9/2019
    Subject: "Tethers in Space" Conferences (AWE Connections)
    Remembering AWE pioneer and Space Tether pioneer, Dave Lang (DaveL here), the ST field is blowing up, and AWE researcher, Gonzalo Sanchez-Arriago, is right in the middle. RolandS even reused the AWEC book-of-abstracts template for the recent ST conference in Madrid. AWE and space tethers are closely co-evolving technologies-



    "... a great opportunity for sharing the last advances in tether technology and bring together again space tether community, including researchers, space agencies and industry. The technical sessions, presentation and networking will create the suitable environment for open discussions on space tethers and their applications to space debris de-orbiting, space propulsion, science, power generation, artificial gravity, and space elevator, among others. "
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28030 From: dave santos Date: 8/9/2019
    Subject: Re: kPower's current testing
    kPower's crosswind power arch experiments today were the best ever, the accumulation of small improvements in recent years. Advanced rig topology and geometry seems optimal; perfection now a question of tunings and detail-engineering. In hot gusty wind at Dripping Springs Texas City Park the starting AWES kite was a Prism 1.8m2. The parafoil tended to overfly its crosswind PTO power-zone, but with close attention stayed in-bounds and did the job if not fully accelerate. 

    Then came the best part; I switched the parafoil out for a Born NPW 4m2. Immediately hope was fulfilled that a larger more powerful SS kite will nevertheless fly the tightest turning pattern of any power kite (and not overfly the power zone). The PTO gone-wild was unloaded, but would have netted a few kW (time to haul out the groundgens). As a sub-test, I added a 2m2 Pilot Delta to the NPW's nose on a 10m bungee line et voila, a rig that stays up whether the power kite is driving the PTO loop or killed, but refinements were wanted, so I took it off. Then a solid derecho gust set in and the NPW went totally nuts, driving the PTO with fast powerful load motion of ~10msec at ~1Hz half-cycle. Suddenly both control lines parted, each rated at about 100kg, and the session was over before I could futz a phone video. 

    Its great when lines bust this way, because the power is so tangible, and its so easy to upgrade lines. Who would have guessed that "ugly" super-powerful SS kites actually turn faster than any other type, and that their Dutch Roll "dancing hippo" wobble is the densest powered-up sweep mode? It took a decade and thousands of power-kite AWES test sessions to hit on what looks obvious now. I enjoyed every session, even the many kitemares, thrilled there is still more to discover and prefect. Thank goodness the core power-kite design space was not any larger, for those impatient for solutions.

    These maturing low-complexity rigs will be easy to replicate. Finally just about anyone will be able to make high-power pumping with just anchors, rag, string and a handful of pulleys, with less critical failure modes of any AWES architecture so far. Wubbo Lives! Thank You Dave Culp and Joe Faust.


    On Monday, July 29, 2019, 12:52:01 PM CDT, dave santos <santos137@yahoo.com> wrote:


     A bit of an update on kPower power-arch experiments, where a power kite drives a crosswind cableway (the "arch") in extended figure-of-eight motions. Its taken this long to get simple AWES designs identified from virtually infinite possible rigs. Every developmental prototype is both a step forward and a dead-end in one. Each requires meditation on the complex observations and how to rig next. Both the topologies and geometries evolve; topologies in leaps, and geometries by tunings.

    Flying an 8m2 KiteShip OL and 7m2 NASA NPW much like WindSled and others before. The control line rigging art is advancing detail by detail, in safety and handiness. On a fixed anchor in strong wind SS power is scary, compared to kite sports where falling off downwind tames the surges. Finding: It will be necessary to work the depower function closely in strong conditions.

    The current architectural direction is to implement a small pilot kite just above the work-cell, to assist launch with a halyard line. Everything else had been flown until worked out fairly well, excepting early-relaunch without walking downwind to reset the kite for launch. Seven pulleys are in the current design, close to what a small sailboat might have. This includes control lines, crosswind cableway PTO, and pilot-lift halyard function.

    AWE is now way beyond what anyone knew how to do back in 2007, when this Forum started as a handful of email contacts. AWES rigging could mature rapidly on the theoretic and experimental foundation laid. Its emotionally odd work, where tiny kitemare after kitemare must be experienced and overcome, and everything finally works ~great~. Once all operational modes have been ~perfected~, the kPower game will turn back to decent measured power; then comes major scaling up, if all goes well.
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28031 From: dave santos Date: 8/10/2019
    Subject: Nature Letter warns of increased global wind turbulence
    As expected decades of data analyzed at UReading, UK, shows that Warming is indeed energizing the atmosphere. The viral news starts by focusing on risk to air travel.

    Lee Miller's MPI worry that AWE could deplete atmospheric kinetic energy is moot; AWE is needed to damp excess energy, by the drag of extraction. The silver-lining is that DS based on wind-shear is enhanced. There will be extra power for AWES, but the systems will have to be more resilient to shear.

    Very hairy Nature link provided by The Guardian, hope it works-
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28033 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/10/2019
    Subject: Re: Nature Letter warns of increased global wind turbulence
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28034 From: dave santos Date: 8/11/2019
    Subject: Amyx's "free lunch" engineering employment offer
    As usual, high-tech job listings reveal more about a venture than the marketing PR-




    Google minion-meals may be less fresh, but available 24/7
    Ampyx- "daily freshly-made free lunch"

    Already tempting, but that's not all- 
    "Excellent opportunities for growth via our personal development plan"
    Wish I had one of those :)

    The Meat-

    "
    These are examples of the teams that we have: the Flight Algorithms Team, the Electronics Team, the Aircraft Design Team, the Software Team, the Flight Operations Team, etc. This vacancy is within our Mechatronics team, a group of 6  experienced Mechatronics Engineers developing heavy duty, high capacity, ground based machines for aircraft launch & land operations. 
    As a member of the Mechatronics team, you will be working on:

    • Detailed design and design for manufacturing of (large) mechanisms for our ground based machines, launch and land apparatus and our aircraft;

    • Support in manufacturing, integration and testing of these (large) mechanisms;

    Examples of mechanisms that fall within the scope of your role: AUV catapult, arresting system, winching system, etc. "
    That's several lifetimes of free lunches ;^)
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28035 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/11/2019
    Subject: Caribbean Foiling Championships

    1. 

    https://www.sail-world.com/news/220789/Caribbean-Foiling-Championships-2020


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    2. 

    "Kiteboarding is to become a full Olympic sailing event after World Sailing’s (WS) Council approved a submission that will see athletes take the stage at the Paris 2024 Games."

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    Will any of the involved kite systems feature air RATs or hydro turbines?

    Will participants and spectators become more able to think about and appreciate a wider world of energy kite systems? 

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    tags: foil, kite foil, kite foiling, FFAWE, two media, moving anchor, kiteboarding, kitesurfing.

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    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28036 From: dave santos Date: 8/11/2019
    Subject: Re: Caribbean Foiling Championships
    The Olympic Kiteboarding rules competition will be between simple boards vs foil boards, LEIs vs parafoils, freestyle vs speed around a course. What about stunt kiting? It hardly matters which fine option first puts kite sports into Olympic play; the kites are coming. 

    None of the kite systems currently under consideration involve RATs or hydro-turbines because such complications are low TRL that would at first only reduce net traction power with added cost and complexity, creating a tech race more than an athletic event. Olympic events try to equalize gear as much as possible. Non-Olympic open "Cup" and record competitions will naturally adopt more open rules. How about Fort Felker on an electric foil-board driven by an M600 for a Gold Medal?

    Note: A Kiwee1 AWES could in principle direct-drive a hydro-turbine board for DUW sailing.

    On Sunday, August 11, 2019, 02:14:59 PM CDT, joe_f_90032@yahoo.com [AirborneWindEnergy] <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


     

    1. 

    https://www.sail-world.com/news/220789/Caribbean-Foiling-Championships-2020


    ===============

    2. 

    "Kiteboarding is to become a full Olympic sailing event after World Sailing’s (WS) Council approved a submission that will see athletes take the stage at the Paris 2024 Games."

    ===============

    Will any of the involved kite systems feature air RATs or hydro turbines?

    Will participants and spectators become more able to think about and appreciate a wider world of energy kite systems? 

    ===============


    tags: foil, kite foil, kite foiling, FFAWE, two media, moving anchor, kiteboarding, kitesurfing.

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    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28037 From: dave santos Date: 8/11/2019
    Subject: Tethered Particle Test Method
    Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 28038 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/12/2019
    Subject: Holographic Universe

    Holographic Universe and Kite ???

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    Tease start: 

      

    The Holographic Universe Explained




    tags:  HQM, QM, degrees of freedom,