You know daveS I'm really amazed at your apparent compulsion to just keep going on with your predictable, canned responses.  You say I "overlooked" something, again.  As usual, you attempt to negatively characterize anyone actually trying any configuration using the word "downselect" as though it adds any meaning.  Meanwhile I've never seen anyone else in AWE even use the term "downselect".  You act like even trying something is some sort of sin, like "See? Downselect is where you went wrong!", as though nobody should actually try anything, ever.  Is that supposed to rationalize you, never making power, while claiming to be the top AWE researcher?  Then you just blatantly change the subject.  You seem to be pretending there are casual readers who might be convinced you even have a point.  We were talking about your accusing me of "empty bragging".  In response I gave five (5) examples of "empty bragging" in AWE: YOU, and the four (4) biggest, most highly-publicized AWE efforts.  In all cases, the promised results never happened.  In your case it was your statement of an AWE-powered concert, during a specific season of a specific year, at a specific park near Austin.  You said you were going to have this concert.  I said you would not, because you had no such AWE system, as a start.  You did not have the stated concert.  Period.  Why?  How cn you have "an AWE-powered concert" with no "AWE system" to power it?  This is not that complicated!  Whenever it is mentioned, as part of noting the general sense of substituting fantasy for reality of current AWE efforts, you try to substitute the term "AWEfest" for your promised concert, implying that somehow the term "AWEfest" means it's OK that you never had the concert you said you were going to have.  This is why I warn others away from even trying to have "a debate" with you. It is clear to me that you have no interest in a fair conversation or discussion, and are unwilling to admit announcing, then not following through on your "concert that never happened".  Your "concert that never happened" is very similar to all four of the most highly-publicized AWE projects:  They also "never happened".  No hypothetical future "AWE-fest", should such a "fest" ever happen, has any bearing on your "concert that never happened" of years ago.  What that non-concert showed us is that there is little regard for truth in AWE, and that, instead, the "teams" are willing to engage in "empty bragging", just as you did, whereby all five (5) examples I gave are similar in having not produced their promised results, or, really, at this point, pretty much any results at all, after promising "the moon".  I know you like to pretend to "have the last word", so at some point I will just have to not respond to you, since it has long been obvious that trying to reason with you or even have a meaningful discussion is fruitless.  In the end there is nobody left to talk to except yourself, talking to yourself.

Fort Felker notes: 

One thing that has not changed is the only thing passing for "news" in AWE is continued statements of future plans.  What about the previous ones?

What is "AWE News" 

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No picture?

When I say "bloopers" it is the same context as we discussed many years ago, in comparison to the birth of aviation and the Wrights, etc., where we see the old movies of the vertically-pumping cone-shaped parasol, etc., representing configurations that seemed worthy of pursuit, by some, at the time, but which can be seen in retrospect as clueless and without any chance of success.  I'm not talking about crashes of promising configurations, or even crashes in general.  Which I agree are a good laugh. even if it is our own machine crashing.  Obviously, any committed pursuit of AWE will inevitably involve crashes.  That's a main reason to stay at a small scale until you attain expertise and learn how to make your ideas work well.  My opinion anyway.  You can look up crash videos of cars, trucks, boats, airplanes, rockets, hang-gliders, paragliders, wingsuits - everything.  They do not all represent bloopers in the development cycle of a technology, so much as just recording accidents, bad driving, poor operational skills, suicidal tendencies, reckless behavior, poor judgement, errant wind currents, drunk pilots, etc.  At least after 12 years of "still nothing running today" you can admit we've been watching "the bloopers".  That is a teeny bit of progress penetrating that infinitely-dense cranium.  Some people know they are watching bloopers in real time.  For others it may take decades to realize it.

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Please have you a photo of the dancing kite(s?) in flight? Thanks.

Sorry, it looks to be power-arch.