Messages in AirborneWindEnergy group.                          AWES 20488 to 20537 Page 303 of 440.

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20488 From: Joe Faust Date: 8/19/2016
Subject: Re: Plant Leaf Adaptations and AWES

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20489 From: dave santos Date: 8/20/2016
Subject: AWESCO on the march

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20490 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/20/2016
Subject: Re: AWESCO on the march

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20491 From: dave santos Date: 8/21/2016
Subject: UFSCKite (Brazilian AWES R&D)

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20492 From: dave santos Date: 8/21/2016
Subject: Re: AWESCO on the march

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20493 From: dave santos Date: 8/21/2016
Subject: Fort Felker doubles-down on Makani's standard pitch, as the news vac

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20494 From: Joe Faust Date: 8/22/2016
Subject: Re: AWESCO on the march

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20495 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Bridles for Stability

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20496 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Re: Bridles for Stability

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20497 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: VIG Wines invests in KiteGen; maybe just a start...

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20498 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Cross Bridling Review and H-Bridled AWES Introduction

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20499 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Latest Rev Kite adds new flight modes

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20500 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Re: Latest Rev Kite adds new flight modes

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20501 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Re: VIG Wines invests in KiteGen; maybe just a start...

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20502 From: Joe Faust Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Re: VIG Wines invests in KiteGen; maybe just a start...

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20503 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Re: VIG Wines invests in KiteGen; maybe just a start...

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20504 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/24/2016
Subject: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20505 From: dave santos Date: 8/24/2016
Subject: Re: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20506 From: dave santos Date: 8/24/2016
Subject: Re: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20507 From: mmarchitti Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Re: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20508 From: dave santos Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Improved Power-Kite PTO Design

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20509 From: dave santos Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Kite Overflight AWES failure-mode

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20510 From: Hardensoft International Limited Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Re: Improved Power-Kite PTO Design

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20511 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Energetic positive attitudes and important visible AWE results

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20512 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Re: Kite Overflight AWES failure-mode

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20513 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Hamburg on Sept. 28, 2016

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20514 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Re: Hamburg on Sept. 28, 2016

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20515 From: dave santos Date: 8/26/2016
Subject: Re: Kite Overflight AWES failure-mode

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20516 From: dave santos Date: 8/26/2016
Subject: Re: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20517 From: dave santos Date: 8/26/2016
Subject: Re: Hamburg on Sept. 28, 2016

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20518 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/26/2016
Subject: Re: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20519 From: Joe Faust Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20520 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Bird Windmill, thin skin, streamlined I-blade

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20521 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20522 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Re: Bird Windmill, thin skin, streamlined I-blade

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20523 From: Joe Faust Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Sharp's TCAT

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20524 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Re: Bird Windmill, thin skin, streamlined I-blade

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20525 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Re: Bird Windmill, thin skin, streamlined I-blade

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20526 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Free flying aerodynamic toy with high stability

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20527 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Some background on Peter A. Sharp

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20528 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Re: Some background on Peter A. Sharp

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20529 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20530 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20531 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20532 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Sharp's TCAT

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20533 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20534 From: dave santos Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20535 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: How Trees Talk to Each Other

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20536 From: dave santos Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Bird Windmill, thin skin, streamlined I-blade

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20537 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: The search for a high flying clean energy generator




Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20488 From: Joe Faust Date: 8/19/2016
Subject: Re: Plant Leaf Adaptations and AWES
This item:The Metamorphosis of Plants (MIT Press) by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe Hardcover $19.25  (illustrated-by-MIT edition)

​Online view of one edition:  HERE​


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20489 From: dave santos Date: 8/20/2016
Subject: AWESCO on the march
All AWESCO positions are filled and the program is in full swing. This is an impressive elaboration of the popular first-order AWES presumption of reeling units in a kitefarm "brush" topology, without direct reference to other theoretic AWES architectures. Collaboration with Makani seems to have dropped. Apparently neither party is eager to explore comparative architectural research, but are instead doubling-down on refining respective narrow down-selects. At least future AWES architectural vetting will take place between well-developed contenders.

Lets hope for definitive results, like published scaling limits and reliability statistics-



Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20490 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/20/2016
Subject: Re: AWESCO on the march
Acronyms in realm: 
ESR  Early Stage Researcher
ER    Experienced Researcher
ITN   Initial Training Network
MPC  Model Predictive Control


In one of the descriptions of ESR work:
"Numerous challenges have to be solved before increasing the kite size to more than 1000 m2 which is necessary to generate reasonable power with high altitude kite wind power systems."

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20491 From: dave santos Date: 8/21/2016
Subject: UFSCKite (Brazilian AWES R&D)
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20492 From: dave santos Date: 8/21/2016
Subject: Re: AWESCO on the march
The quote below Joe pasted from SkySails' AWESCO page does stand in stark logical contradiction to the first-order working-hypothesis of other AWESCO partners; that rigid wings are the favored AWES path. It would be great for AWESCO to resolve this scaling issue within its academic context. In the real world, SkySails has apparently flown more hours, with more power, under more challenging conditions, than all other AWESCO partners combined. The missing bit is how best to harness giant ship kite derivatives to groundgens, with two active players in Austin, Texas, (AWElabs and kPower) focused on that challenge. Looking beyond that, kixels    
Acronyms in realm: 
ESR  Early Stage Researcher
ER    Experienced Researcher
ITN   Initial Training Network
MPC  Model Predictive Control


In one of the descriptions of ESR work:
"Numerous challenges have to be solved before increasing the kite size to more than 1000 m2 which is necessary to generate reasonable power with high altitude kite wind power systems."



Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20493 From: dave santos Date: 8/21/2016
Subject: Fort Felker doubles-down on Makani's standard pitch, as the news vac
Did we overlook this link from last April? Makani's ten-year saga is a confused blur, but its marketing narrative, at least, is consistent. From April of this year, this Fort cookie-cutter interview offers no real news, as the early AWE world continues to hold its breath awaiting M600's denouement.

Yesterday Ken Conrad, at WSIKF 2016, was able to report, as a recent eyewitness, that an M600 is living outdoors on its perch on Alameda Island (not flying). Its presumed there is more than one M600 prototype unit for the Hawaii testing program. Hawaii media has not reported any imminent M600 flying. No news is not good news in tech R&D.



Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20494 From: Joe Faust Date: 8/22/2016
Subject: Re: AWESCO on the march
Mentioned as reference in one of their videos' caption, but here linked to the PDF: 
Marcelo De Lellis, Ramiro Saraiva, and Alexandre Trofino
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20495 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Bridles for Stability
US20160236776) 
Bridles for Stability of a Powered Kite and a System and Method for Use of Same 
 Applicants: Google Inc. 
 Inventors: Damon Vander Lind

Once at the site, the discoverable link to the PDF full document gives best image set. Else first version of document seems to have some defective image presentation. 

Patent application filed on July 22, 2014. 


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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20496 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Re: Bridles for Stability
In the absence of Makani news, this odd patent reveals more about the thinking within the program than any other source. In this disclosure, Makani is seen increasingly worried about inherent instabilities of its kiteplanes, long predicted here, especially during the delicate hover-to-crosswind-looping-transition. Sensory uncertainty, component failure, and and wind field turbulence are cited problems, but a morass of proposed solutions is not elegant, but involves added degrees-of-freedom (DOF) that add further complexity and mass to the already most-complex and most-massive AWES architecture of any.

Core ideas claimed, of adding an active bridle and providing the horizontal stabilizer with a wider motion range, are really old and obvious, so consider this more of utility-patent narrowly applicable to Makani's design. A variation implied is to actuate the active bridle from within the airframe, rather than a pod possibly acting as a wrecking-ball on the tether during hover or upset. Even other E-VTOL AWES designs, with lifting rotors spread wider more like a quadcopter, probably have nothing to worry about this patent, unless GoogleX ends up burning money on marginal patent wars.

This patent merely fills the conventional tech-venture checklist to file IP. Once again for Makani patents, there does not seem to be any major "inventive leap", nor is deep knowledge of existing kite-art evident (even the term "bridle" is misapplied to each bridle line, rather than the whole bridling). Damon is an interesting figure in Makani, who once claimed to have been hired in less than 60 seconds, but has now become the longest known surviving technical lead in a rocky program that churns through engineers whose names are not publicly acknowledged.


On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:32 AM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
US20160236776) 
Bridles for Stability of a Powered Kite and a System and Method for Use of Same 
 Applicants: Google Inc. 
 Inventors: Damon Vander Lind

Once at the site, the discoverable link to the PDF full document gives best image set. Else first version of document seems to have some defective image presentation. 

Patent application filed on July 22, 2014. 


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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20497 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: VIG Wines invests in KiteGen; maybe just a start...
VIG Wines has invested in KiteGen, showing that SABIC's KiteGen investment was not exclusive, and suggesting that KiteGen's current situation somehow requires new investors, perhaps to pay back SABIC, or to fund its risky power wing factory idea (risky, given the unvalidated wing). VIG Wines seems to have plenty of OPM cash to spread across many economic sectors, and is showing active interest in AWE R&D outside of KiteGen's narrow effort.

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20498 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Cross Bridling Review and H-Bridled AWES Introduction
Simple bridling is branching string structure to distribute kite loadings and maintain wing shape. Cross-bridling consists of lines to cross-link simple bridle-lines. A common example is cathedral bridling to match a catenary line to a flat wing via many short bridle lines. Power kite Z-bridles incorporate cross-lines fore-and-aft, usually for front lines to support the weight of rear line, to keep the soft-wing TE from being deformed by line-sag.

A H-bridle is a cross-line between left and right tether lines, rather like Z-lines run fore and aft. During WSIKF 2016, kPower flew a 5.5m2 Pansh valved parafoil from its bridle points connected to spread sand anchors. The kite flew stably, but its shape was deformed owing to its bridle being spread apart. An H-bridle was added to pinch together the bridle-points, which corrected the shape, but now the kite wanted to dutch-roll in powerful oscillations.

This variable dynamic stability technique restores to the embedded power-kite some inherent short-line instability in a controllable way, independent of altitude. In effect, the H-bridle creates a new arch loadpath as an elevated surface to host short-line power-kite oscillations. The new H-bridle enabled passive pumping AWES mode is readily tuned to conditions.

Open-AWE_IP-Cloud


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20499 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Latest Rev Kite adds new flight modes
Even as Joe Hadzicki's old Revolution Kite utility patent expires, and imitators proliferate, he has reset the design bar higher, with new patented features in his Revolution Reflex.

JoeH demoed the Reflex for me on Sunday at WSIKF, while we caught up on AWE talk*. His inventive leap within the new wing is reversible wing dihedral-anhedral action. An old Rev has anhedral bowing under tension, but is flat during slack-tethers state. The new kite in slack bends back into a dihedral state and becomes a stable glider. In wind too low to fly a normal Rev, Joe was able to pop up the Reflex and quasi-step-tow pump it in sustained flight. It had a fine high L/D stable glide between pumps.

While there are single-line and dual-line deltas and glider kites that also do this, the Rev has an unmatched ability to fly backwards and sideways. kPower is evaluating a Rev variant to carry up an attach a kill-line to a working kite. This worked before for KiteLab Ilwaco, but only by moving around on the ground for kite position. A Rev-based version should allow easier docking of kill-lines by kite steering alone. Perfected kill-line docking will allow large AWES kites not to have to carry kill-lines all of the time, as is current best-practice (Open-AWE_IP-Cloud).

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* To be reported as a separate topic. Joe's formal involvement in AWE dates to [Lang, DF, 2004] and he has been in active contact with many key folks ever since.
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20500 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Re: Latest Rev Kite adds new flight modes
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20501 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Re: VIG Wines invests in KiteGen; maybe just a start...
Noting that KiteGen brand is replicated across two corporate entities, KiteGen and KiteGen Ventures, which are being confused with each other. The business rationale for this duplication is not public.

Here's the recent pitch for Kitegen Ventures that VIG Wines bought into-



On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 12:09 PM, "dave santos santos137@yahoo.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
VIG Wines has invested in KiteGen, showing that SABIC's KiteGen investment was not exclusive, and suggesting that KiteGen's current situation somehow requires new investors, perhaps to pay back SABIC, or to fund its risky power wing factory idea (risky, given the unvalidated wing). VIG Wines seems to have plenty of OPM cash to spread across many economic sectors, and is showing active interest in AWE R&D outside of KiteGen's narrow effort.



Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20502 From: Joe Faust Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Re: VIG Wines invests in KiteGen; maybe just a start...
In the KGV zeal one may find some challenging statements:
1. "and in the very near future in the GigaWatt class."
2. " The first real innovation of KiteGen lies in the choice of a high-performance energy source: the high altitude winds,"   
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20503 From: dave santos Date: 8/23/2016
Subject: Re: VIG Wines invests in KiteGen; maybe just a start...
We honor Pocock, Etzler, and even ancient inventors for the "real innovation" of the concept of harnessing kite energy systematically, not to mention Payne, Loyd, Roeseler, Goela, Ockels, and so on, all prior innovators.

Thanks JoeF for pointing out "KiteGen Venture" is spelled singular. 


On Tuesday, August 23, 2016 7:47 PM, "Joe Faust joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
In the KGV zeal one may find some challenging statements:
1. "and in the very near future in the GigaWatt class."
2. " The first real innovation of KiteGen lies in the choice of a high-performance energy source: the high altitude winds,"   


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20504 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/24/2016
Subject: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition

Mission Innovation


and


Breakthrough Energy Coalition


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AWE is being scoped for possible inclusion. 


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20505 From: dave santos Date: 8/24/2016
Subject: Re: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition
A UK-based global green energy initiative, on similar principles-






Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20506 From: dave santos Date: 8/24/2016
Subject: Re: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition
R20 is yet another big new player in global green energy R&D-


Note that there is a loose coalition in AWE circles favoring comprehensive coordinated R&D to move forward, but also many players still hoping to tap into the new funding as isolated private ventures. What is needed is a mix of both R&D models leading to a fly-off process (including scoring matrices and integrated simulations) to reveal best-of-class AWES solutions.




Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20507 From: mmarchitti Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Re: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition
A lot of money has been poured in the AWE field, as well as in the hot nuclear fusion program, without important visible results up to now, in both fields. Money are important, of course, but not fundamental. I think that the nuclear fusion research suffers of the lack of adequate theoretical bases, whereas the AWE technological development is slowed down or blocked by the attitude of people.

"We Were All in it Together" said Homer Ahr in this video, when he reminds of the Apollo program development and of the eroic phases of the Apollo 13 rescue. That short clip is taken from "IBM Centennial Film" by Errol Morris and Philip Glass, the best composer as ever.




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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20508 From: dave santos Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Improved Power-Kite PTO Design
One of the best innovations of Open-AWE was to figure out how to do direct mechanical work with a COTS power kite by adding a PTO (power take-off) consisting of a pulley-based Whipple-tree/lazy-jack force equalizer that filtered control inputs from work output. In small original versions, the pulley-tree was airborne, but as these PTOs were scaled up by kPower, the growing mass of the pulleys and thickened (super-duty) line sections began to cause problems.

The solution is to branch a PTO line from every multi-line and bring them to the ground to a multi- standup-block, and behind that multi-pulley locate the PTO pulley tree that combines the lines to one pumping line. Furthermore, the pumping output line can be routed into buildings or down to a water source to work well isolated from the kite's wildness. These two refinements greatly extend the utility of the early power kite PTO method.

kPower will refine the new design by driving a water pump located at a lower reservoir to irrigate higher up by hosing. Previous experiments validated PTO irrigation by filling a dangling bucket from a pool and pouring out the water anywhere within the kite's scope, which is still a promising method for fire-fighting or spot irrigation.

Open-AWE_IP-Cloud
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20509 From: dave santos Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Kite Overflight AWES failure-mode
A kite overflight state occurs when a kite overflies its zenith/anchor-point and moves dangerously upwind. An overflown kite can easily lose tether tension and crash, or snub-up its slack tether violently in recovering downwind.

The risk of overflight is confined to high L/D kites and kiteplanes and is especially worrisome for high-velocity high-mass kiteplanes during short-tether phases. Thanks to Ozone Paragliders for the observation that its SS wing is far less at risk for overflight, compared to conventional parafoils, due to less fabric-mass and contained-airmass. Kite overflight failure-mode risk is greatest for rigid-wing AWES designs, but this particular AWES failure-mode has mostly been overlooked by theory, but is surely being faced in rigid-wing AWES testing.

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Sample power kite discussion of overflying-



Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20510 From: Hardensoft International Limited Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Re: Improved Power-Kite PTO Design
AWES Irrigation systems if perfected remains an attractive early market entry system for Africa as it is much needed on farms especially as governments across the continent renews emphasis on Agriculture.
 
John Adeoye  Oyebanji   B.Sc. MCPN
Managing Consultant & CEO
Hardensoft International Limited
; ; ; Company
NIGERIA / AFRICA.
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20511 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Energetic positive attitudes and important visible AWE results

The energetic and positive attitudes of many AWE R&D workers has brought a steady stream of important visible AWE results. And more is coming! Spectacular will be a handy descriptor ultimately.  Hats off to those who have been showing their AWE tech to the world through the Internet and field trials. Keep up the fertile work! Energy kites doing practical works is on a march that is gaining momentum. Evidence in part for the positive progress can be found in our over 20,000 messages in this forum, which is just one corner of the energy-kite realm. Hard wing products keep advancing; patent disclosures continue; comparative fly-offs shows signs of becoming more robust. Teams are sharpening their focus. Hopefully investors are becoming wiser. Competition in various branches of AWE continues to bare distinctions that may be used by creative analysts. Materials for wings, tethers, and anchor systems continue to amaze. The body of concepts for potential mega-AWES continues to grow. AWE has steadily increasingly impinged text in governmental circles. Exploration among potential paths to effective work done by energy kite systems continues. Learning from experiments has been building an ever growing AWE tech and safety sphere that will be available to support the growing participation. Newcomers in AWE keep arriving; those who came and went contributed lessons that may help the active AWE realm.  Congratulations to the AWE world for being!


Continue to post notes about AWE details from experiments, trials, tests, simulations, product development, customer experience, incidents, ...

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20512 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Re: Kite Overflight AWES failure-mode
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20513 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Hamburg on Sept. 28, 2016

Announcement/Invitation PDF


A first "1st" for Hamburg:

 An Airborne Wind Energy Forum 

to be held on September 28, 2016.   Live. 

About 2 1/2 hours of presentations will be served. 


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20514 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/25/2016
Subject: Re: Hamburg on Sept. 28, 2016
TIME TOPIC SPEAKER EXPERT TALK 
10.00-10.10 Airborne Wind Energy: Introduction, Innovation by Co-operation Stefan Wilhelm, HWN500, Head of Network Management 
10.10-11.10 Energy Transition and Renewable Energies Markus Rövekamp, Member of the Federal Expert Commissions Energy Policy and Energy Efficiency 
11.10-11.30 Break KEY PLAYERS AND TECHNOLOGIES 
11.30-11.40 Airborne Wind Energy Power from 500 m Altitude Guido Lütsch, German Airborne Wind Energy Association, President 
11.40-11.50 TwingTec and Mobile Wind Energy for Off-grid Applications Dr. Rolf Luchsinger, TwingTec AG, CEO 
11.50-12.00 Kitemill and Fully Autonomous Operation PhD Lode Carnel, Kitemill AS, CTO 
12.00-12.10 EnerKíte and Micro-grids Dr. Alexander Bormann, EnerKíte GmbH, CEO 
12.10-12.20 SkySails Power and Offshore Deployment Stephan Wrage / Stephan Brabeck, SkySails Power GmbH, CEO / CTO
Further Details 
Through talks and discussions with key players of the industry the “1st Airborne Wind Energy Forum” at WindEnergy Hamburg aims to give interested fair visitors, journalists, investors and wind energy professionals the opportunity to get a thorough first-hand insight in Airborne Wind Energy (AWE) and its future potential in the energy sector. For this purpose, we present a variety of speakers, including the topics: 
 Energy transition and renewable energies 
 AWE – Technology overview  Status of development and opportunities to join 
 Pitches of 4 AWE manufacturers from Switzerland, Norway and Germany Date: Wednesday, September 28, 2016, 10.00 – 12.20 am. 
Duration: Two blocks of 1 hour each, 20 min break in between. 
Location: Room 3.1, “Kopenhagen”, exhibition hall B3 at WindEnergy Hamburg 2016. 

Please let us know about your participation (yes/no/maybe) asap at http://doodle.com/poll/ah9bf3ya2tg32mr6 The first 30 subscribers to the list will get a free ticket to access the fair (upon request). The event per se is for free but the capacities of the location are limited. By subscribing you make sure to be allowed to participate. For further questions, please contact us at “kontakt@hwn500.de” or Home - HWN 500

 

 

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20515 From: dave santos Date: 8/26/2016
Subject: Re: Kite Overflight AWES failure-mode
Hargrave is often considered the first modern kite scientist, but kite science has advanced over the years to better explain kite behavior, like kite flight at 110 deg, beyond zenith. The current physics interpretation is that a kite in idealized horizontal wind cannot even sustain flight right at zenith, but must fly at some angle <90 deg. 

Several possibilities exist to explain Hargrave's reported kite flight at 110 deg- Perhaps the wind was not fully horizontal, but rising upwards, like onshore wind encountering a sloping shore, and/or the kite was surging forward momentarily by inertial momentum owing to its mass and the acceleration provided by a gust, and/or perhaps the kite glided upwind in lulls, and/or perhaps all these effects occurred in dynamic combinations.

Hargrave's "trapeze" solution was characteristically inventive but primitive. The arch topology is both suggestive but perhaps irrelevant; maybe beneficially damping and shifting the dutch-roll harmonics of the kite to a higher frequency. The added mass of the bar would have interacted with the kite's overflight, tending to damp overflight surge. A certain fact is that Hargrave's kites tended to have more mass to area and higher wing loading than more modern kite designs and materials of the same scale, in similar wind.



On Thursday, August 25, 2016 4:32 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20516 From: dave santos Date: 8/26/2016
Subject: Re: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition
Mario,

Its regrettable that you were not able to keep KiteGen and WOW in harmony. You were caught in the middle of bitter personal  politics and greedy venture interests that lacked the aeronautical professionalism you uniquely represented. A similar insider process in the US ruined Makani and AWEC's golden chance to lead a global AWE effort, and the pattern has been much the same in the Northern EU circles with players like Ampyx. By unprofessional neglect, all these AWES platforms, for the many millions invested, are woefully non-compliant with aviation insurance and regulatory safety-reliability standards.

We lost our unifying aerospace-based leader when Wubbo died, but time is moving on and emerging investment conditions (detailed in this topic) have never been better in AWE to finally put together a comprehensive research program, with aviation R&D experience like yours finally driving solid progress. Italian AWE prospects seem increasingly to converge on L'aeroporto di Capannori, on a solid foundation of aviation culture. Please join them in developing major new AWE research, in a growing global collaboration network of the best players.

daveS





On Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:29 AM, "marchitti@hotmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
A lot of money has been poured in the AWE field, as well as in the hot nuclear fusion program, without important visible results up to now, in both fields. Money are important, of course, but not fundamental. I think that the nuclear fusion research suffers of the lack of adequate theoretical bases, whereas the AWE technological development is slowed down or blocked by the attitude of people.

"We Were All in it Together" said Homer Ahr in this video, when he reminds of the Apollo program development and of the eroic phases of the Apollo 13 rescue. That short clip is taken from "IBM Centennial Film" by Errol Morris and Philip Glass, the best composer as ever.




---In AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com, <santos137@...


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20517 From: dave santos Date: 8/26/2016
Subject: Re: Hamburg on Sept. 28, 2016
A counter-trend to the mysterious gap in AWEC conferences is for AWE to become especially featured in larger wind and green-energy events. WindEnergy Hamburg is the biggest wind energy event in the world and growing. AWE will be nicely represented by the experts listed. Thanks to HWN500 for founding this new public presence and expanding it in future years.



Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20518 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/26/2016
Subject: Re: Mission Innovation and Breakthrough Energy Coalition
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20519 From: Joe Faust Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Peter A. Sharp <sharpencil@sbcglobal.net know about my new kind of kite. You can see videos by searching for "Sharp
Cyclo-Kite". It's a cross between a vertical axis windmill and a two-line
kite. It flies in horizontal or vertical circles. When it flies in vertical
circles, it functions as a kite that can fly upwind of, and above, its
anchor points during part of its orbit. When it flies in horizontal circles,
it typically functions as a vertical axis windmill, specifically a "" (search online). But a vertical orbit can also be used to create a
windmill. The blade is typically suspended on thin shock cords, but ordinary
kite line will work too. The blade doesn't stall because it is controlled by
a centrifugal spring that opposes the pitching force acting on the blade. As
the speed of the kite increases, the orbit diameter increases, so the rpm
remains at roughly 60 rpm, at least for models. The Bird Windmill is
probably the cheapest possible wind pump by a wide margin. The blade is used
to create an unbalanced, cyclic pulling force to operate a piston pump. A
rotary pump can be driven directly by the blade as well. And I have a new
way to generate electricity by connecting the blade to what I call a
"twist-cord-accumulator/ transmission", or "TCAT". It spins the generator
intermittently at a high rpm, so batteries can be charged during low-wind
conditions. Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks for your attention to my information,
Peter Allen Sharp
PS: I have additional kinds of kites, but I'll wait to see if you are
interested in the Sharp Cyclo-Kite.
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Yes, interested, Peter!  Welcome.   Some of us will be exploring
your good works. 



Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20520 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Bird Windmill, thin skin, streamlined I-blade

Bird Windmill, thin skin, streamlined I-blade


Who?
Details?


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20521 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20522 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Re: Bird Windmill, thin skin, streamlined I-blade
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20523 From: Joe Faust Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Sharp's TCAT
This topic thread could study and discuss Peter A. Sharp's TCAT. 
TCAT ::  "twist-cord-accumulator/transmission"

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20524 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Re: Bird Windmill, thin skin, streamlined I-blade

P1010752 Bird Windmill rocking towers


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20525 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Re: Bird Windmill, thin skin, streamlined I-blade

The Whirlwing | Drachen Foundation
Caution: The page might have a typo, not sure, on the middle initial in name. Most evidence is that "A." is our energy-kite adventurer. However, the "S." might be a family member.





 
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20526 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Free flying aerodynamic toy with high stability

https://www.google.com/patents/US4051622

Free flying aerodynamic toy with high stability  

Peter A. Sharp


Publication numberUS4051622 A
Publication typeGrant
Application numberUS 05/676,042
Publication dateOct 4, 1977
Filing dateApr 12, 1976
Priority dateApr 12, 1976
InventorsPeter A. Sharp
Original AssigneeSharp Peter A
Export CitationBiBTeXEndNoteRefMan
External Links: USPTOUSPTO AssignmentEspacenet


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20527 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Some background on Peter A. Sharp

Some background on Peter A. Sharp


1. ==  https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/AirborneWindEnergy/conversations/messages/20526


2. ==  Wind or fluid current turbine  

US 4334823 


3.  http://thishappyhomestead.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/Sharp_Cycloturbine.pdf  This has also some notes on his kite that is featured for study and discussion in another topic thread in our forum.


Peter and others are invited to add background information. 

 

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20528 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/27/2016
Subject: Re: Some background on Peter A. Sharp
The Bodysail: improved bicycle sailing by Peter A. Sharp
The article is within 

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17 Turboships
22 Sharp Rotor Kite
Both articles by Peter A Sharp

In "Turboships"  Peter present his concept of  "Stretch kites" for producing useful energy.

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20529 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT

Sharp Cyclo-Kite (3)


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Sharp Cyclo-Kite (13)


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See and study and discussion 
more of his related videos:

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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20530 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20531 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT

Bird Windmill model blade test 92

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Bird Windmill model blade test 93


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Sharp Cycloturbine Exp (4)


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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20532 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Sharp's TCAT
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20533 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT

Sharp VAWT test #4


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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20534 From: dave santos Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Peter A. Sharp. Sharp Cyclo-Kite and TCAT
The horizontal Cyclo-Kite is an apparently an independent invention of JoeF's Tumbling-Wing DS AWES concept that kPower prototyped in a remarkably similar form.

Peter Sharp is yet another talented developer working in AWE. We are seeing a healthy trend for multiple practitioners in all the contending AWES architectures developing prototypes to a state of readiness for the looming grand fly-off phase of AWE R&D.


On Sunday, August 28, 2016 6:50 AM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  

Sharp VAWT test #4


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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20535 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: How Trees Talk to Each Other
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20536 From: dave santos Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: Re: Bird Windmill, thin skin, streamlined I-blade
The profile of Peter Sharp evident from the start is of a cleverly inventive self-sufficient wind-device developer who is conquering the mountain-sized AWE challenge by methodical baby-steps. His prototyping style is focused on key working principles without regard for conventional esthetics. That he had already made the Drachen Foundation's radar is further evidence of Sharp's specialized merit from the kite expert perspective. Even most "top" AWE R&D teams lack these fundamental virtues.

UMaine (LeBreque (Sp?)) and KiteLab Group (JoeF, me, etc.) have also independently worked the design space of pumping looping wings. As a group, we have explored configurations in all three possible axial orientations. At a minimum, two of the orientations match popular AWES cycles with upwind/downwind phases*, with special potential advantages, like DSing in a strong wind gradient, or theoretic pairings in turbine fields after [Dabiri et al]. The third axial orientation, along the wind axis, known as the "Looping-Foil", has fully crosswind motion. Besides simple cheap light powerful passive loopers, there are tacker wings that self-tack across the wind like sailboats. 

The next big design challenge is to cross-link these designs in airborne lattices that pump coherently, showing the way to scale up from single units to vast arrays of many units. Sharp's claim that this is the first kite to inherently travel upwind of its anchor is tricky. For example, Cyclo-Kite/Bird-Windmill operation presupposes an added lift basis. If added lift is from terrain or towers, his claim works, but if the lift comes from lifter-kites, then the anchor-points would likely be upwind of a practical wing orbit.

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* Once again, a core operational AWES topology is shared by varied geometries.


On Saturday, August 27, 2016 7:48 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  

The Whirlwing | Drachen Foundation
Caution: The page might have a typo, not sure, on the middle initial in name. Most evidence is that "A." is our energy-kite adventurer. However, the "S." might be a family member.





 


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 20537 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 8/28/2016
Subject: The search for a high flying clean energy generator