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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19725 From: dave santos Date: 2/18/2016
Subject: Atmospheric Langmuir Circulation as a routine Kitefarm Operational F

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19726 From: dave santos Date: 2/19/2016
Subject: WindRose Classification as AWES Design Driver

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19727 From: dave santos Date: 2/19/2016
Subject: Rise of the Sky Monkeys (Moab tribe)

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19728 From: Hardensoft International Limited Date: 2/20/2016
Subject: Re: AWEIA Progressing

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19729 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/20/2016
Subject: Re: Rise of the Sky Monkeys (Moab tribe)

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19730 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/20/2016
Subject: Re: AWEIA Progressing

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19731 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/22/2016
Subject: A consortium won grant

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19732 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/23/2016
Subject: Re: Bill Gates again touts "High Wind" [Oct. video interview by The

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19733 From: dave santos Date: 2/23/2016
Subject: Re: Bill Gates again touts "High Wind" [Oct. video interview by The

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19734 From: dave santos Date: 2/24/2016
Subject: eWind at ARPA-E Summit 2016

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19735 From: Hardensoft International Limited Date: 2/25/2016
Subject: Re: eWind at ARPA-E Summit 2016

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19736 From: dave santos Date: 2/25/2016
Subject: What is the optimal number of AWES tethers? (~20,000,000)

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19737 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: PG and HG Tow Launching

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19738 From: dave santos Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: Re: PG and HG Tow Launching

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19739 From: dave santos Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: Improved AWES Car-Winch Integration by Roller or Dog-Coupling

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19740 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: Drink "kite water"

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19741 From: dave santos Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: Re: Drink "kite water"

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19742 From: dave santos Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: "Advanced Technology" Mothra again on-hold :(

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19743 From: dave santos Date: 2/28/2016
Subject: KiteMatter Analog Topological Order and Quantum Dancing (two good re

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19744 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/29/2016
Subject: RAST

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19745 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/1/2016
Subject: Re: RAST

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19746 From: dave santos Date: 3/1/2016
Subject: Re: RAST

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19748 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/2/2016
Subject: Net-Casting by Kite Systems

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19749 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Inflatable delta-shaped traction kite

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19750 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Re: RAST

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19751 From: dave santos Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Meeting in Moab with BASE pros

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19752 From: dave santos Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Re: RAST

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19753 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19754 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Jeffrey Sterling Phipps

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19755 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Re: Jeffrey Sterling Phipps

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19756 From: dave santos Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Re: Jeffrey Sterling Phipps

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19757 From: dave santos Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Re: [AWES] ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19758 From: dave santos Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Parafoil collapse resistance?

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19759 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Re: Parafoil collapse resistance?

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19760 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Steffen Born

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19761 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Re: Meeting in Moab with BASE pros

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19762 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Systems and Apparatus for Tether Termination Mount for Tethered Aeri

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19763 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Stratosphere Tethered Platform for multiple uses

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19764 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Controlling a tethered, roll-limited aircraft

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19765 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: SYSTEM AND PROCESS FOR MANAGING AND CONTROLLING THE FLIGHT OF WING P

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19766 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Apparatus for converting mechanical energy into electric energy

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19767 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: AIRBORNE WIND ENERGY CONVERSION SYSTEM WITH GROUND GENERATOR AND UNO

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19768 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: LIGHTER-THAN-AIR CRAFT FOR ENERGY-PRODUCING TURBINES

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19769 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Rudolf Seibt filed on Otto Lilienthal's BD of 2000

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19770 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Re: Stratosphere Tethered Platform for multiple uses

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19771 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Re: Parafoil collapse resistance?

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19772 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Re: Steffen Born

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19773 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Re: SYSTEM AND PROCESS FOR MANAGING AND CONTROLLING THE FLIGHT OF WI

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19774 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: As AWE patent-thicket worsens, the need for pooled IP grows

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19775 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Born Kite's new high-AR SS power wing




Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19725 From: dave santos Date: 2/18/2016
Subject: Atmospheric Langmuir Circulation as a routine Kitefarm Operational F
AWE micro-meteorological understanding grows from both reference-study and thousands of kite flight hours. We can see in Hadley Cells, ordinary cloud streets, surface-layer kite reactions, and so on, many atmospheric versions of Langmuir Circulation helicity. Here is an oceanographic model that shares geophysical fluid-dynamics with air, but on a smaller denser scale. Langmuir Circulation applies to ocean current harvesting with underwater kites.

These complex yet common motions strongly affect AWES, harming or enhancing operations, depending on design. A compliant lifter-kite network, in smoother wind above, could suspend WECS harvesting wing arrays that ideally target vortical wind concentrations. We are closer than ever to cheap effective LIDAR to realtime image these wind structures.


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19726 From: dave santos Date: 2/19/2016
Subject: WindRose Classification as AWES Design Driver
A standard wind turbine pivots to keep its rotor disc squarely crosswind in any direction. In contrast, there is no standard AWES, but there is a stark design choice between kite units that operate between crosswind anchors, to harvest maximum energy, but do not pivot freely, if at all, and AWES that pivot freely, but capture relatively less wind in a given land footprint and airspace. Optimal AWES designs must closely match most-probable local winds, not just by wind velocity, but by wind direction, as revealed by the site windrose. Therefore, lets define three basic windrose cases that can strongly drive AWES architectures. Below are three basic windrose classification examples, but many common windroses are mixed in character, often by seasonal and terrain variations, and thus less clearly classified. 

The first windrose below is highly radially "iso-symmetric". A suitable AWES must rotate freely (or tilt freely, in the case of of an iso-dome lattice) in any direction. The second windrose shows a "bi-polar" windrose, where a crosswind direction is consistent, but polarity flips regularly (like common sea-breeze/land-breeze oscillation, and some seasonal or gap winds). Bi-polar AWES crosswind designs simply flip which side of its sail area is the face. The third wind rose is strongly "mono-polar", where wind mostly blows one-way (trade-winds and some gap-winds as a representative cases). This may be the easiest wind case to design for, but its relatively rare over large parts of the planet.


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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19727 From: dave santos Date: 2/19/2016
Subject: Rise of the Sky Monkeys (Moab tribe)
Noting that the idea of "sky monkeys" to service AWES aloft has been in use in our circles since 2007. We knew about kite "man-lifting", ancient to modern, and were inspired by of Bondestam's and later LAGI's kite Aerotecture, which modeled communities in kite-diorama and CGI forms, respectively. 

Then along comes the amazing real-life Moab Monkeys starting around 2012 or so, with a shared vision to combine climbing, skydiving, slack-lining, base-jumping, and so on, into a new aerial extreme sport lifestyle. We even had strong Moab-Austin cultural ties, via radical-circus stunt subculture (Ed Sapir, in particular brought his Moab background to kPower). Today I contacted several Moab dare-devils about conceptual stunt-work from kites, and they are intrigued. We will meet in early March (as I pass thru on my way to Texas) to discuss direct exploration of aerotecture and AWE concepts, using kPower kite-tech.

This may be the very dawning of the new age long discussed only theoretically on the AWES Forum, now becoming practical, when living-in-the-sky-by-means-of-kites finally becomes mainstream, and vast AWES turn out to be maintained aloft by human presence; the Rise of the Sky Monkeys...
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19728 From: Hardensoft International Limited Date: 2/20/2016
Subject: Re: AWEIA Progressing
Many thanks, DaveS.
May I request of JoeF / Ed Sapir to please publish again here on this forum now, our list of National Representatives as we had them; since there has been no changes yet. Anyone who objects may then inform us here so we'll acknowledge such exits.
Further lifts.
JohnO
President, AWEIA International
 
John Adeoye  Oyebanji   B.Sc. MCPN
Managing Consultant & CEO
Hardensoft International Limited
<Technologies  
The Airborne Wind Energy Industry Association is now six years old. A lot happened in AWE during that time. AWEIA supported the creation of our first conference (HAWPCON09), and then weathered years of marginalization by AWEC (a secretive pay-to-play consortium led by Joby-Makani venture capital insiders, that emerged privately after the conference, whose failed monopolistic initiatives divided us deeply. AWEC now seems spent, having failed to broadly advance AWE, or even just the narrow interests of its backers). AWEIA is freed to resume leadership on a more democratic basis respecting all stakeholders.

AWE is now entering a major new growth phase, with many more players and far more investment at a higher level of technological development. AWEIA is responsible to keep pace and even drive the developments. This topic is for suggesting specifically what is needed. A first suggestion is that KiteLab Group use its SXSW invitation to raise AWEIA awareness and membership, making Austin, Texas, a strong AWEIA base. We will bring along the closely-connected and growing US NW AWE scene; but its crucial to reactivate AWEIA's global volunteer network of country and regional representatives, and to move forward with an updated consensus agenda.

New members and volunteers can contact JohnO directly, or reply here with further suggestions.




Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19729 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/20/2016
Subject: Re: Rise of the Sky Monkeys (Moab tribe)

Activities Aloft

1. Wear wingsuit with its terminal governable parachute.

2. Photography.

3. Nap (with alarm set to smart sensing of aerotecture status).

4. Tend to solar collectors.

5. Serve lunch to visitors.

6. Hang out wet cloth to have them dry.

7. Climb lines in various ways for exercise.

8. Sail along lines between sub-kite systems.

9. Tend to WECs.

10. Loft gliders holding charged batteries. Gliders will smartly glide home.

11. Bring up some sea water. Drop the water into gravity-driven flex tube filled with filter. Get cleaned salty water. Or have chemistry to take salts out also. 

12. Tend to water distillation assemblies. Bring up sea water; distill the sea water to get fresh water.

13. Collect atmospheric water. Tend to maintenance of collector.

14. Swing-sail for fun. Hang and sail under control of aerodynamic surfaces; connect the root to a lever that drives an electric generator. Make electricity from the fun.

15. Fly kites from the mother AWES. Kite festival upon kite system!

16. Assist in the landing of aircraft aloft. Soaring hang gliders will be landing. Sailplanes. IFOs. Powered aircraft.   Assist in launch operations for the aircraft aloft.

17. Move shading sails to fit ground-requests. Shade may increase ground workers' productivity.

18. Repair system lines.

19. Inspect all systems aloft.

20. Slide down a line while letting the fall help bring up a new visitor or worker or goods.

21. ...

Etc.


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19730 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/20/2016
Subject: Re: AWEIA Progressing
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19731 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/22/2016
Subject: A consortium won grant

"A consortium led by Kite Power Solutions"

See news spot: Grant boosts Kite’s flight


"The consortium involves six partners. They are: BVG Associates; Artemis Intelligent Power; Imperial College; The National Composites Centre; Keynvor Morlift; and Banks Sails."

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19732 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/23/2016
Subject: Re: Bill Gates again touts "High Wind" [Oct. video interview by The

Bill Gates interviewed:


THE BILL GATES INTERVIEW: An energy miracle is coming, and it's going to change the world

 


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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19733 From: dave santos Date: 2/23/2016
Subject: Re: Bill Gates again touts "High Wind" [Oct. video interview by The
The encouraging trend is that Bill Gates, the highest net-worth individual in the US, also a proven technologist, now puts AWE at the top of his list of promising energy-tech. He is even beginning to ponder specific tech-gaps, as part of his iterative engineering learning-curve skills, still quite acute at age 60. He is beating the drum for AWE like no other celeb on the planet-

"We need to look at less obvious paths, things like the wind in the jet stream, which is very high up. The material science of what type of kite string you would need to connect up to that. That's still at the basic research level."

The good news is that we already have a fantastic set of advanced super-polymers to meet AWES high wind kiteline requirements. The remaining kiteline challenge is just how best to design, rig, and operate kitelines as a mature system technology.

Bill concludes pondering-

"You say, what are the top 20 universities in the world that do good materials research that might create carbon fibers to do jet stream kites or new magnets that will allow [energy] generation to be done up there and you just bring the electricity down. You either have to bring down rotational energy, which is hard, or you have to have the generator up there and bring down the electricity. Well, putting the generator up there is hard to do because it's too heavy."


On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 2:59 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
Bill Gates interviewed:

 

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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19734 From: dave santos Date: 2/24/2016
Subject: eWind at ARPA-E Summit 2016
AWE start-up eWind of Beaverton, Oregon, is headed to ARPA-E's latest Washington DC event with high hopes. Lets hope recent history does not repeat, and small AWE ventures are finally taken seriously by the DOE.

The ARPA-E show and funding process in the past only led to DOE millions being thrown at Google's AWE equity investment, Makani. AWE R&D proposals by smaller worthier players, with actual AE expertise, like Dave Lang's SkyMill, went ignored. Pay-to-play AWEC insiders led by Makani-Joby lobbied the US Congress privately on behalf of a rightly failed AWE airspace privatization scheme, but other machinations went forward. 

A very cozy Google-DOE inside circle developed and partied at lavish private West Coast AWE affairs. At the lowest point, the "hijacked" 2010 AWEC conference systematically excluded independent AWE players from access to the gov folks, who were schmoozed, wined, and dined. ARPA-E proposed an AWE Prize Challenge for the neglected small players, which never materialized (in part due to PJ and Dimitri's missteps). Google-Makani went on to directly hire (with zero "revolving door" delay) key government energy policy figures, like Cathy Zoi and Fort Felker. Many small US AWE players simply gave up on the DOE AWE political circus, to stay relentlessly focused on the tech.

Its possible eWind can now break ARPA-E's AWE R&D pattern. I pitched eWind's CEO, David Schaefer, for them to confidently represent the US AWE field broadly, rather than just rely on eWind's limited in-house R&D, still in early stages. eWind won USDA funding to validate small rural AWES tech, and David seems to accept moral responsibility to deliver the best solutions to the US taxpayer, whether developed in-house or discovered by due-diligence research.


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19735 From: Hardensoft International Limited Date: 2/25/2016
Subject: Re: eWind at ARPA-E Summit 2016
Thanks, DaveS;
Best wishes to David Schaefer and the eWind team.
Further lifts.
JohnO
AWEIA
 
John Adeoye  Oyebanji   B.Sc. MCPN
Managing Consultant & CEO
Hardensoft International Limited
<Technologies  
AWE start-up eWind of Beaverton, Oregon, is headed to ARPA-E's latest Washington DC event with high hopes. Lets hope recent history does not repeat, and small AWE ventures are finally taken seriously by the DOE.

The ARPA-E show and funding process in the past only led to DOE millions being thrown at Google's AWE equity investment, Makani. AWE R&D proposals by smaller worthier players, with actual AE expertise, like Dave Lang's SkyMill, went ignored. Pay-to-play AWEC insiders led by Makani-Joby lobbied the US Congress privately on behalf of a rightly failed AWE airspace privatization scheme, but other machinations went forward. 

A very cozy Google-DOE inside circle developed and partied at lavish private West Coast AWE affairs. At the lowest point, the "hijacked" 2010 AWEC conference systematically excluded independent AWE players from access to the gov folks, who were schmoozed, wined, and dined. ARPA-E proposed an AWE Prize Challenge for the neglected small players, which never materialized (in part due to PJ and Dimitri's missteps). Google-Makani went on to directly hire (with zero "revolving door" delay) key government energy policy figures, like Cathy Zoi and Fort Felker. Many small US AWE players simply gave up on the DOE AWE political circus, to stay relentlessly focused on the tech.

Its possible eWind can now break ARPA-E's AWE R&D pattern. I pitched eWind's CEO, David Schaefer, for them to confidently represent the US AWE field broadly, rather than just rely on eWind's limited in-house R&D, still in early stages. eWind won USDA funding to validate small rural AWES tech, and David seems to accept moral responsibility to deliver the best solutions to the US taxpayer, whether developed in-house or discovered by due-diligence research.




Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19736 From: dave santos Date: 2/25/2016
Subject: What is the optimal number of AWES tethers? (~20,000,000)
The theoretic question in the subject line above was prompted a few weeks ago by a TUDelft overview of AWE ventures, for the second Springer AWE book. Because it was not obvious, unlike other venture down-selects, the email requested a representative tether-count of kPower's AWES, as if there were just one to count from. kPower has KiteSat in craft production as a single-tether solution; but also dozens of multi-line experiments over the years. For our maximal "forward-looking" case, the best current optimal tether-count prediction roughly derives as follows-

Presume a global need for 20TW of electrical power, allowing for moderate demand growth. To meet this need, posit a global AWES network (especially kPower's planetary-scale airborne lattice topology concept) that functions as one integrated system, much like regional power grids already work. Posit a megawatt unit rating for super-polymer tether sub-units of about 100mm diameter, by also assuming conservative load velocities around 100kmhr, fairly high capacity-factors, and so on.

Given these premises, the optimal AWES would employ around 20,000,000 tethers. TUDelft is likely to come up with a very low optimal tether number, under the different premises of their established small system-unit AWES paradigm. 

Next question- How long should optimal tethers be? At nominal tension, precisely long enough to reach the ground :)
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19737 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: PG and HG Tow Launching

Skynch II Test 7-6-2011

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Newest generation of para towing winches.m4v

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Juiced paraglider winch (remotely controlled by pilot)

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Skynch - The electric paraglider winch

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Many more projects are available for some study of gear, experiences, ...

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19738 From: dave santos Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: Re: PG and HG Tow Launching
Indeed, its wonderful to see so many high-speed winch projects that so closely inform AWE design. Several trends are seen; the compactization of units, increased inclusion of features like level-winders and remote control, a proliferation of basic operating modes, and multi-sport (wake and glide) capability. Everywhere we look, AWE R&D is happening unaware in closely related disciplines. To paraphrase Malreaux, its a global AWE R&D Lab "without walls". This is the "AWE Manhattan Project" we got, not the one we naively envisioned as a single giant effort.

Below is an ambitious effort to couple a car's jacked-up drive wheel that is not quite ideal (a winch/weak-link jam could buck the car dangerously), but its a step toward greater integration of a COTS vehicle with winching (as was done with early cars in the final years of the Golden Age of Kites). In our circle, we know to dog-couple directly to the wheel hub, to eliminate the large tire rollers, but no one has actually done a jacked-up car AWES project yet-





On Saturday, February 27, 2016 8:47 AM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19739 From: dave santos Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: Improved AWES Car-Winch Integration by Roller or Dog-Coupling
The AWES-car integrated platform idea started here from auto dynometers, where the car tires run on rollers. Then "bush winch" designs were noted, where a winch drum mounts on a wheel's lug-nuts. This PTO basis eliminates a need for rollers, but its not a whole kite-winch solution. A drive roller impinged on the tire might still be a fine method, but cradling the car on a rollers would only make sense for a fixed AWES groundstation where the bare car roams, but returns to the cradle to charge.

To take the rollerless idea further, consider a winch hinged from the car frame that swings in place to couple on the wheel-hub by a dog-coupling like the versions linked below. Combined with integrated jacks to get the wheel(s) off the ground, it would be a modest advance. The looming era of motor-wheels on e-cars will take this design space even further, and the mature electric hybrid kite-car will be a wonderfully effective nomadic power plant.

Open-AWE_IP-Cloud

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19740 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: Drink "kite water"

Reports of people drinking kite water is invite din this topic thread. Equipment specifications, drawings, description of scene, ...


Kite system collection of water from the atmosphere is one realm.

Kite system hung filtration for purifying certain input waters is another realm.

Combination of kited solar energy for cooling to get condensation of water from the sky is another realm.

Use kitricity for cooling to get condensation of water from the sky is game.

Using ancient kite-raised sponges is part of the party; demonstrate; show; specify; describe successful operation.

Kite-system treatment of ocean water for drinking by people and animals on boats, rafts, emergency rafts, aerotecture living quarters, ...


Products?

Etc.  

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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19741 From: dave santos Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: Re: Drink "kite water"
Joe, there is a rather spectacular idea suggested in your kitewater post; to filter water, but especially that a high-altitude water pressure provides a basis to desalinate water directly by high-pressure ROI. Seawater would first be lifted then filtered, but the mechanical basis and cycle is very low-complexity.

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Lets make clear that its a good idea to purify kitewater before drinking, excepting dehydration emergencies.


On Saturday, February 27, 2016 12:57 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
Reports of people drinking kite water is invite din this topic thread. Equipment specifications, drawings, description of scene, ...

Kite system collection of water from the atmosphere is one realm.
Kite system hung filtration for purifying certain input waters is another realm.
Combination of kited solar energy for cooling to get condensation of water from the sky is another realm.
Use kitricity for cooling to get condensation of water from the sky is game.
Using ancient kite-raised sponges is part of the party; demonstrate; show; specify; describe successful operation.
Kite-system treatment of ocean water for drinking by people and animals on boats, rafts, emergency rafts, aerotecture living quarters, ...

Products?
Etc.  
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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19742 From: dave santos Date: 2/27/2016
Subject: "Advanced Technology" Mothra again on-hold :(
Sorry folks, today I intended to fly the new MothraAT, assembled from six 22m2 Peter Lynn pilot-kites, but the wind was too strong, and Rae Bohn is still recovering from a hip-replacement. I did put up a single kite, which kicked my butt. Monday I head for Moab (to scheme with Monkeys), then on to Texas (SXSW-Interactive); so the maiden flight of MothraAT is pushed back until I return to the NW in a few months. kPower work meanwhile will concentrate on scaled-up looping parafoils, which are scary enough. 

Why is this new kite human-flight development track so necessarily slow? Where is the impatiently awaited "daredevil" factor of brave aerial pros kiting aloft? The naive public is hardly aware how much novel dangerous stunt-work involves long deliberate study and planning. The meeting next week with Moab Monkeys and Friends is just a starting step of a long tough journey for Aerotecture. Airshow  and aerial stunts in particular are very carefully developed. Those of us who have worked professionally in new extreme-sport areas are typically haunted by a fairly long list of dear dead friends who pushed too hard too fast.




Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19743 From: dave santos Date: 2/28/2016
Subject: KiteMatter Analog Topological Order and Quantum Dancing (two good re

A weird fact about kites is that the physical subtleties are exotic enough that there is still no complete formal theory. The unfolding of modern kite engineering parallels the progression of modern physics. It began with Galileo's revelation of tethered-mass dynamics. Newton himself was first a kiteflier. Today's aviation gradually developed from kite science. Hargrave was a fantastic kite experimentalist. Wittgenstein got his start as an early-modern aeronautic engineer working with kites. Van Veem is recent example of a physics-oriented fascination with kites, which led to his finding chaos physics in the kite. At every turn, the dancing kite has revealed its hidden mysteries at the pace of respective scientific discoveries.

The AWES Forum carries on the long noble tradition of interpreting kite-based observations in the light of advancing science. We have explored engineering similarities of our evolving "kite-matter" with liquid-crystals, aerogels, meta-materials, semiconductor design, and so on. We also go deeper into the fundamental ontological interpretations of kites that advanced physics offers. Do your kite homework, and a beautiful vista appears.

This first paper by XG Wen (Ed Whitten was his thesis advisor, back in the day) is very a beautiful overview of a mind-blowing revolution in physics that readily maps to careful observations of kites, strings, and wind. To do so, keep in mind our kite particle physics is phonon-based. What we thought of as fundamental bosons are fermion pairs. The QM phase requirement of absolute zero temperature is given by the Debye temperature of UHMWPE (or renormalizing the Planck Constant's quantum-of-action to the kite's natural dimension). Over the years, point by point, we confirmed kite strings (or even the Pythagorean monochord) act analogously to microscopic quantum strings. Now physicists are beginning to see in microscopic string-net theory the same Eulerian "dancing" that our dancing kites display. Thus our kite lattice dances are similarly characterizable as emergent phases of matter.  XG's words-

"... a quantum liquid of oriented strings...new topological properties... new kinds of waves and emergent statistics...so profound...they may change our view of universe. Let us start by (the)...“principle of emergence”."

Note that kite experts call "tethering" what formal physics calls "entanglement". A unified origin of phonons and gravity seems nigh-

Topological order: from long-range entangled quantum matter to a unified origin of light and electrons 

Xiao-Gang Wen

Perimeter Institute for Theoretical Physics, Waterloo, Ontario, N2L 2Y5 Canada 2Department of Physics, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, Massachusetts 02139, USA 3 Institute for Advanced Study, Tsinghua University, Beijing, 100084, P. R. China


More about the new dance craze-


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19744 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 2/29/2016
Subject: RAST

RAST

Ram-Air Section Technology

RAST - ram air section technology

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[[Variation on the theme of keeping air from leaving the chambers too readily ..   JpF]]


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2016 3:48 am    Post subject: RE: Ram Air Section technology - by Swing - better safetyLogin Reply with quote

Rough and ready video translation by "mm"

What we pilots fear: 

Large surface asymmetries. 
Front collapse with front rosette. 
Getting lifted in higher wind launch. 
Overshooting while reverse launching. 
Reduced control in turbulence. 

Is faced by Swing with an innovative idea! 

RAST 

The first bulkhead partition for controlled pressure areas in paraglider. 

The system, invented by Swing, for controlled pressure areas produces: 

While starting. 
1. The front pressure area fills first. 
2. A self stable profile is developed which does not overshoot or lift the pilot. 

Simulation of how the canopy inflates. 

The canopy inflated front first. The lift force is generated gradually. 

During reverse start, the wing doesn´t overshoot but takes off sooner. 

In Flight. 
1. Maneuverability remains complete, even in extreme turbulence. 
2. Nice "pull into thermal" instead of hanging back upon encountering lift. 

Normal flight: bulkhead open top and bottom. 

Disturbed flight: bulkhead closes top and bottom. 

and above all... 
... with RAST, paragliders become clearly safer. 

On a paraglider, the great thing is that excessive energy is dissipated by deformation. For that it is enough that the lifting, front section of the profile deforms. 

It is only when the back section strongly deflates and the fold extends beyond mid wing that asymmetrics and frontals become a problem. 
RAST acts effectively against precisely this. 

A frontal with RAST 

New with RAST... 
during an asymmetric or a frontal, the front section acts as a crumple zone like in cars. It deforms. 
This is the BUFFER Section. 

Any deformation in the front section produces an increase in pressure in the back section, thus avoiding excessive emptying. 
This is the CORE Section. 


If the CORE section remains inflated, turn rate, altitude loss and dynamics during asymmetrics and frontal become complete non-problems. 

Asymmetric at full speed 
The rear section also folds but a a very reduced angle, it does not deflate completely. 
center of the wing immediately flies again. 

With RAST it is extremely difficult to create large collapses 
this is where RAST works 

In order to get a large collapse, the pilot needs to pull both, A and B risers. 

Extremely fast opening with little height loss even during 100% frontals 

We don´t want to leave the most important question unanswered... 
What does a comparison look like between a wing with and without RAST? 

Wing without RAST 
-only one hand to pull collapse 
-faster course change 
-higher dynamics 
-more height loss 
-stronger shooting 

Wing with RAST 
-collapse pulled with two hands 
-slow change of course 
-little dynamics 
-barely any height loss 
-only light shooting
 
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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19745 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/1/2016
Subject: Re: RAST
Note from Doug Selsam on topic:

This development seems very promising for paragliders.  A few weeks ago I was at our Landing Zone near Crestline and a paraglider crashed while landing, apparently after applying his "brakes" too early.  He fell about 37 feet landing with a very loud glancing blow and broke his arm.  He was not moving at first and had to be scraped up by a firetruck and ambulance with a giant spatula.  All the hang glider pilots tend to warn against paragliding because of low top speed (poor "penetration") which can get you blown into power lines or stranded, and especially "canopy-collapse" which can take a couple hundred feet for the canopy to re-inflate, meaning flying below a couple hundred feet in a paraglider can be especially dangerous - not enough height to reinflate the paraglider canopy or a reserve chute.  I wonder if this RAST is really a solution?  Sounds very encouraging.  Hope it's not just another case of "whalebumps"!
Does anyone know if this improvement in paragliders lives up to its very promising hype?
:)))
~ Doug Selsam
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 Key discussion with links to more: RAST






Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19746 From: dave santos Date: 3/1/2016
Subject: Re: RAST
Aviation begins dangerous to become safe over time. Using the key inventive leaps as milestones, rag-and-stick HG dates to Lilienthal and rag-and-string soft PG dates to Barrish and Jalbert, so HG is considerably older, and has a more mature safety culture and design basis. 

Current statistics are partial, but paragliding is regarded as more accident-prone. Given the fast rate of early progress, its plausible PG will catch up to HG safety. There are many complex differences in safety, like average lower experience of PG pilots, that do not answer to which is intrinsically safer. Market forces tend to drive safety to a socially acceptable mortality rate, regardless of technology. BASE fatalities are running 1-in-60, and that's an improvement.

Its smart for AWES developers not to play it too safe, but train in as many branches of aviation as possible. AWE is blessed by many top figures, like Dale Kramer and Joe Faust. Wubbo was even an astronaut. Corwin survived jumping his kiteboard over a great white shark, but died at his desk of overwork on Wing7 a week later. AWE killed him. PG is statistically far safer than being Makani CEO.


On Tuesday, March 1, 2016 7:45 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
Note from Doug Selsam on topic:

This development seems very promising for paragliders.  A few weeks ago I was at our Landing Zone near Crestline and a paraglider crashed while landing, apparently after applying his "brakes" too early.  He fell about 37 feet landing with a very loud glancing blow and broke his arm.  He was not moving at first and had to be scraped up by a firetruck and ambulance with a giant spatula.  All the hang glider pilots tend to warn against paragliding because of low top speed (poor "penetration") which can get you blown into power lines or stranded, and especially "canopy-collapse" which can take a couple hundred feet for the canopy to re-inflate, meaning flying below a couple hundred feet in a paraglider can be especially dangerous - not enough height to reinflate the paraglider canopy or a reserve chute.  I wonder if this RAST is really a solution?  Sounds very encouraging.  Hope it's not just another case of "whalebumps"!
Does anyone know if this improvement in paragliders lives up to its very promising hype?
:)))
~ Doug Selsam
======================================
 
 Key discussion with links to more: RAST







Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19748 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/2/2016
Subject: Net-Casting by Kite Systems

This topic thread invites an exploration of accomplishing good by kite-system-based net casting. Ancient fishing by net casting, spider net casting for meals, criminal-catching by use of net casting, ... begin to point to a realm where kite systems may play well by net casting. The specifications for the nets (material, mesh, closing tactics, size, ...) are game for this topic thread. Reports of actual practical uses of net casting by kite are invited.

     Cast a net to fetch goods, people, harvests ...  Use kite power to close and cinch a casted net.  Cast nets to catch drones. Cast needs to land insects, wayward wings, birds.  Cast nets to quicken the cleaning of oil slicks. Cast nets to ______________________________________ ? ______.


Wings of a kite system may be the nets to be casted; or wings of a kite system could support a net-casting operation.  

Teasing start from spider realm:  HERE

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19749 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Inflatable delta-shaped traction kite
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19750 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Re: RAST

Repeat, but with corrected link:    (Thanks, Doug S. for sending in the head's up on the link error; helpful!)


A strong student of high-aspect-ratio soaring parachutes (PGs) safety is Rick Masters. A core focus of his regards the PDMC (paraglider dead-man's curve).  I'd recommend that other students of PG safety face the full body of Rick's text over the topic. Some of his study is now in Internet Archive, but he remains an active commentator on the topic. Searching his name, PDMC, and given links in the course, one may capture much of his offer.   Maybe start:     NewLINKhere

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19751 From: dave santos Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Meeting in Moab with BASE pros
Yesterday, in Moab Utah, I met with Steph and Ian, two all-around BASE jumping, wingsuit skydiving, and climbing pros, to discuss kite-flight human factors. We covered many hypothetical aspects of wind-powered sky sports, and also industrial AWE and aerotecture, and they were very excited by the possibilities of the cheap kite lift that is emerging. They had explored jumping from hot air balloons, but the regulatory restrictions were much more onerous than the legacy FAR Part 101 kite regs we operate under. We all agreed to move forward in phases, planning toward major sponsorship and actual safety-research jumps late this summer.

There were many close connections in our backgrounds, particularly Justin Brim, of Cloudstreet Winch, who I know and consult with, and who recently came to Moab to do winchtow sessions. Steph's dad is an aerospace veteran with an advanced radar background, which might figure in kitefarm ops. Moab is clearly a cradle of aerial talent, and we can count on the spectacular local terrain, or the "monkeys"* are ready to travel wherever they are invited. Its pretty clear we at the beginning of a major revolution in sky sports, with almost unlimited possibilities.

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* The "monkeys" label is generic in current aerial sports, having maybe started with the "Yosemite Monkeys" , and the "Moab Monkeys" were tagged so to distinguish the two closely-related communities. "Sky Monkeys" seems like the natural working label for the entire class of pros.


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19752 From: dave santos Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Re: RAST
To put the RAST in context, keep in mind that valved-parafoils already resist collapse during upset.  The reason this feature is not standard is due to the risk of a hot uncontrolled wing during ground launch or landing (LEIs don't collapse either, but water is softer than ground, and kite-buddies are common). PG canopy collapse is really mostly an issue for those doing violent aerobatics. A skilled PG pilot reliably nips rare turbulent upsets in the bud by rapid brake-line actuation. Its a reflex all skilled parafoil flyers develop, to instantly maintain brake tension during luff.

RAST is mostly a refinement by one design team to strike a balance between open cells and valved cells, but other designers are also able to do the similar inflation retention by the baffle structure of the internal ribs or partial LE valving. The RAST method might catch on, but its not a major advance, just the normal slow experimental progression to perfect the parafoil, which is a diffuse global effort.


On Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:10 AM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
Repeat, but with corrected link:    (Thanks, Doug S. for sending in the head's up on the link error; helpful!)

A strong student of high-aspect-ratio soaring parachutes (PGs) safety is Rick Masters. A core focus of his regards the PDMC (paraglider dead-man's curve).  I'd recommend that other students of PG safety face the full body of Rick's text over the topic. Some of his study is now in Internet Archive, but he remains an active commentator on the topic. Searching his name, PDMC, and given links in the course, one may capture much of his offer.   Maybe start:     NewLINKhere


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19753 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig

https://www.google.com/patents/DE202014003105U1

and


Kite

www.google.com/patents/EP0358000B1?cl... - Translate this page
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 14, 1989 - ‎Issued Oct 14, 1992 - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
Dirigible kite, controllable from the ground, with air-filled wing and air-entry apertures (8) at the front edge (7), at least two control lines (6) and ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss

Flexibler - Staudruck - Sleddrachen Flexible - Dynamic ...

www.google.com/.../DE202013010482U1... - Translate this page
Grant - ‎Filed Nov 21, 2013 - ‎Issued Jan 9, 2014 - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
Flexibler Staudruckdrachen für Fesselflug mit Lufteintritts- und Luftaustrittsöffnungen, welche die drei Doppelkammern (1, 2, 3), mit ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss

Guided kite with stable yet adjustable curve profile

www.google.com/patents/US5033698
Grant - ‎Filed Sep 7, 1989 - ‎Issued Jul 23, 1991 - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig- ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
The curve profile of the front edge of an air-filled wing or sports kite of a type which is guided from the ground is maintained without the use of ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss

Flexibler - Staudruck - Lenkdrachen Flexible - Dynamic ...

www.google.com/.../DE202014003105U1... - Translate this page
Grant - ‎Filed Apr 11, 2014 - ‎Issued May 20, 2014 - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
Vom Boden aus beidseitig geflogener Lenkdrachen, zum Fliegen von Figuren, oder zum Antrieb von Wasser- oder Landfahrzeugen mit ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss

Flexibles Staudruckflügelsegel als Vorrichtung zum Antrieb ...

www.google.com/.../DE202013010255U1... - Translate this page
Grant - ‎Filed Nov 12, 2013 - ‎Issued Dec 19, 2013 - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
Flügelsegel, zum Antrieb von Wasser- oder Landfahrzeugen mit einer tragflächenähnlichen geschlossenen Profilausbildung mit ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss

Flexibles Staudruckflügelsegel als Vorrichtung zum Antrieb ...

www.google.com/.../DE102014014184A1... - Translate this page
App. - ‎Filed Sep 19, 2014 - ‎Published May 13, 2015 - ‎Anmelder Gleich - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
Das beschriebene Segelflügel ist aus vollkommen flexiblem Material hergestellt. The sail is made of wings described completely flexible ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss



Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19754 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Jeffrey Sterling Phipps
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19755 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Re: Jeffrey Sterling Phipps

Seems document and images are not yet loaded to secondary systems.

So here is the USPTO

for the same topic:

United States Patent: 9013055

 



Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19756 From: dave santos Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Re: Jeffrey Sterling Phipps
Phipps overlooks that linear generators must operate at very high oscillation frequency to be effective, but a kite only pumps at low frequency. This is not even a new AWES concept, but an obvious idea that has been looked at and rejected multiple times (including early KiteLab Austin).


On Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:43 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
Seems document and images are not yet loaded to secondary systems.
So here is the USPTO
for the same topic:
 




Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19757 From: dave santos Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Re: [AWES] ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
Schimmelpfennig is a longtime kite expert, whose nearly thirty years of patents that try to improve on the major kite designs, by small additions. Without apparent market success or careful validating experiments, its unclear if he has advanced kite state-of-the-art, but he's a remarkably persistent filer.


On Thursday, March 3, 2016 8:24 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  
and

Kite

alt
www.google.com/patents/EP0358000B1?cl... - Translate this page
Grant - ‎Filed Aug 14, 1989 - ‎Issued Oct 14, 1992 - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
Dirigible kite, controllable from the ground, with air-filled wing and air-entry apertures (8) at the front edge (7), at least two control lines (6) and ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss

Flexibler - Staudruck - Sleddrachen Flexible - Dynamic ...

alt
www.google.com/.../DE202013010482U1... - Translate this page
Grant - ‎Filed Nov 21, 2013 - ‎Issued Jan 9, 2014 - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
Flexibler Staudruckdrachen für Fesselflug mit Lufteintritts- und Luftaustrittsöffnungen, welche die drei Doppelkammern (1, 2, 3), mit ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss

Guided kite with stable yet adjustable curve profile

alt
www.google.com/patents/US5033698
Grant - ‎Filed Sep 7, 1989 - ‎Issued Jul 23, 1991 - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig- ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
The curve profile of the front edge of an air-filled wing or sports kite of a type which is guided from the ground is maintained without the use of ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss

Flexibler - Staudruck - Lenkdrachen Flexible - Dynamic ...

alt
www.google.com/.../DE202014003105U1... - Translate this page
Grant - ‎Filed Apr 11, 2014 - ‎Issued May 20, 2014 - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
Vom Boden aus beidseitig geflogener Lenkdrachen, zum Fliegen von Figuren, oder zum Antrieb von Wasser- oder Landfahrzeugen mit ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss

Flexibles Staudruckflügelsegel als Vorrichtung zum Antrieb ...

alt
www.google.com/.../DE202013010255U1... - Translate this page
Grant - ‎Filed Nov 12, 2013 - ‎Issued Dec 19, 2013 - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
Flügelsegel, zum Antrieb von Wasser- oder Landfahrzeugen mit einer tragflächenähnlichen geschlossenen Profilausbildung mit ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss

Flexibles Staudruckflügelsegel als Vorrichtung zum Antrieb ...

alt
www.google.com/.../DE102014014184A1... - Translate this page
App. - ‎Filed Sep 19, 2014 - ‎Published May 13, 2015 - ‎Anmelder Gleich - ‎Wolfgang Schimmelpfennig
Das beschriebene Segelflügel ist aus vollkommen flexiblem Material hergestellt. The sail is made of wings described completely flexible ...
Overview - ‎Related - ‎Discuss




Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19758 From: dave santos Date: 3/3/2016
Subject: Parafoil collapse resistance?
soft-wing stability during extreme aerobatics by pilot skill-


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19759 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Re: Parafoil collapse resistance?

Rick Masters sent a note to editor of Upper Windpower

on topic:


"

I don't have stats on paragliding casualties, only an incomplete list.

When a soaring parachutist dies without witnesses, he is often found dead on the side of a hill where thermal conditions were present.  The fatal injuries are most often quite terrible and extensive, indicating a high speed impact.  If his crash is observed, he is most often seen falling in complete or partial canopy collapse, or seen impacting hard while out of control due to the collapse. Lay observers most frequently report a paraglider falling "out of control" from 300 feet or less (within the Paraglider Dead Man's Curve) prior to a heavy impact.

 

Of the 116 fatal PG accidents in 2015 that I currently know of, the majority appear quite obviously to be due to collapse during inland flying as a result of thermal turbulence - roughly half occur while working lift at low altitude and the rest during landing approach.  The causes of serious PG injuries are comparable.  Deaths stemming from aerobatics or competition play a significant but relatively small role. The vast majority of those killed are recreational flyers suddenly falling out of the sky.


Insofar as the argument goes about a supposed improvement in design of paragliders or any improvement in safety, note that 2003 shared the the same number (or more) of fatalities.  

Rick Masters

"

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19760 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Steffen Born

Patent DE202015001217U1 - Singleskin Kite mit Vorflügel Singleskin Kite with slats

  Steffen Born

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19761 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Re: Meeting in Moab with BASE pros
Big paraglider with 10 passengers

 

Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19762 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Systems and Apparatus for Tether Termination Mount for Tethered Aeri

Brian Hachtmann, Corwin Hardham, Damon Vander Lind, Rob Nelson


US9216824 (B2)  -  Systems and Apparatus for Tether Termination Mount for Tethered Aerial Vehicles


Publication numberUS9216824 B2
Publication typeGrant
Application numberUS 14/620,194
Publication dateDec 22, 2015
Filing dateFeb 12, 2015
Priority dateDec 10, 2013
Also published asUS9211951, 4 More »
InventorsBrian Hachtmann, Corwin Hardham, Damon Vander Lind, Rob Nelson
Original AssigneeGoogle Inc.
Export CitationBiBTeX, EndNote, RefMan
External Links: USPTO, USPTO Assignment, Espacenet
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19763 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Stratosphere Tethered Platform for multiple uses
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19764 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Controlling a tethered, roll-limited aircraft

Controlling a tethered, roll-limited aircraft
WO 2015150470 A1



Publication numberWO2015150470 A1
Publication typeApplication
Application numberPCT/EP2015/057210
Publication dateOct 8, 2015
Filing dateApr 1, 2015
Priority dateApr 2, 2014
InventorsOlav Aleksander BU
ApplicantKitemill As
Export CitationBiBTeX, EndNote, RefMan
External Links: Patentscope, Espacenet
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19765 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: SYSTEM AND PROCESS FOR MANAGING AND CONTROLLING THE FLIGHT OF WING P
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19766 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: Apparatus for converting mechanical energy into electric energy

Apparatus for converting mechanical energy into electric energy


Publication numberWO2015181841 A1
Publication typeApplication
Application numberPCT/IT2015/000057
Publication dateDec 3, 2015
Filing dateMar 5, 2015
Priority dateMay 28, 2014
InventorsMassimo IPPOUTO
ApplicantKite Gen Research S.R.L.
Export CitationBiBTeX, EndNote, RefMan
External Links: Patentscope, Espacenet
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19767 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: AIRBORNE WIND ENERGY CONVERSION SYSTEM WITH GROUND GENERATOR AND UNO

AIRBORNE WIND ENERGY CONVERSION SYSTEM WITH GROUND GENERATOR AND UNORTHODOX POWER CAPTURE OR TRANSFER 


[[Center of page:  Images link brings an opportunity to read the document.]]



Abstract:

Abstract

An airborne wind energy conversion system with a ground generator and unorthodox power capture or transfer means, including such embodiments as: a system with an ultra-long flexible wing, which serves both for power harvesting and power transfer; a system with a tethered wing, the tether having an airfoil cross section in at least a substantial part of its length and participating in power harvesting; a system with a very long semi-circular wing, harvesting and transferring wind power by its helical motion; a system in which a conventional wing both harvests wind power and excites waves in the tether, the waves transferring the power.

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United States Patent Application 20150130188


Inventors:Goldstein; Leonid; (Austin, TX)
Applicant:






Goldstein; Leonid

           Austin

 TX

   US

Family ID:49997753
Appl. No.:14/601173
Filed:January 20, 2015




Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19768 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/4/2016
Subject: LIGHTER-THAN-AIR CRAFT FOR ENERGY-PRODUCING TURBINES
United States Patent Application20150274277
Kind CodeA1
Glass; Benjamin W.October 1, 2015

LIGHTER-THAN-AIR CRAFT FOR ENERGY-PRODUCING TURBINES 

Abstract

A wind-based power generating system provides a wind energy converter for converting wind energy into another form of energy using a lighter-than-air craft configured to produce a positive net lift. The net lift includes both a net aerodynamic lift and a net buoyant lift. A tethering mechanism is configured to restrain the lighter-than-air craft with respect to the ground. The lighter-than-air craft defines an interior volume for containing a lighter-than-air gas, and the lighter-than-air craft has a fore section and an aft section. The tethering system has at least one attachment point on the fore section of the lighter-than-air craft and at least one attachment point on the aft section of the lighter-than-air craft. The lighter-than-air craft provides a stable aerodynamic moment with respect to a yaw axis about a center-of-mass of the lighter-than-air craft. The craft can be formed in a variety of aerodynamic profiles/shapes.

Inventors:Glass; Benjamin W.; (Somerville, MA)
Applicant:
NameCityStateCountryType

Altaeros Energies, Inc.

Somerville

MA

US

Family ID:47353094
Appl. No.:14/679883
Filed:April 6, 2015
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19769 From: joe_f_90032 Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Rudolf Seibt filed on Otto Lilienthal's BD of 2000
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19770 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Re: Stratosphere Tethered Platform for multiple uses
Edmund of San Jose (Silicon Valley) boldly envisions large permanent buoyant platforms aloft, but despite his claim of no prior art, there is is fact a large body of concept work, like Bucky Fuller's airborne sphere communities and elaborate sci-fi versions, like Poul's Orion or Star Wars' Cloud City, not to mention frequent variations on the theme here. So he's left with exclusive IP of a rather poor LTA design, in the shape of a cube, that neither optimizes lifting volume, structure, nor low-drag. He disregards just how marginal a permanent "rigid" structure is in the thin air 20km high, and that mature prior art of of tethered streamlined aerostats is more optimal to go highest with most payload (Graf Zeppelin, almost a century ago, represents early perfection of LTA form and structure, still standard today, and modern aerostats proven at 5km high can be developed further as "stratellites").

The dream is nevertheless real. Lets hope Ed is able to learn from and adapt historic and current LTA design, to refine his grand imagination vision into practical form.


On Friday, March 4, 2016 7:16 PM, "joefaust333@gmail.com [AirborneWindEnergy]" <AirborneWindEnergy@yahoogroups.com  


Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19771 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Re: Parafoil collapse resistance?
Thanks to Rick for his info. Its clear better statistical data is needed to sort out relative risks of aggressive aerobatic and XC competition by a smaller elite group versus the misadventures of a larger pool of less-professional less-experienced flyers. A large fraction of PG and fast-canopy parachuting fatalities are due to turning hard too low and swinging violently into the ground, which better training can offset. An HG does not swing the pilot into the ground like a PG can, but it does land faster if the flair-landing is mistimed (while sink-rates are remarkably constant across glider types).


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Rick Masters sent a note to editor of Upper Windpower
on topic:

"
I don't have stats on paragliding casualties, only an incomplete list.
When a soaring parachutist dies without witnesses, he is often found dead on the side of a hill where thermal conditions were present.  The fatal injuries are most often quite terrible and extensive, indicating a high speed impact.  If his crash is observed, he is most often seen falling in complete or partial canopy collapse, or seen impacting hard while out of control due to the collapse. Lay observers most frequently report a paraglider falling "out of control" from 300 feet or less (within the Paraglider Dead Man's Curve) prior to a heavy impact.
 
Of the 116 fatal PG accidents in 2015 that I currently know of, the majority appear quite obviously to be due to collapse during inland flying as a result of thermal turbulence - roughly half occur while working lift at low altitude and the rest during landing approach.  The causes of serious PG injuries are comparable.  Deaths stemming from aerobatics or competition play a significant but relatively small role. The vast majority of those killed are recreational flyers suddenly falling out of the sky.

Insofar as the argument goes about a supposed improvement in design of paragliders or any improvement in safety, note that 2003 shared the the same number (or more) of fatalities.  
Rick Masters
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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19772 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Re: Steffen Born
Steffen is an NPW wizard, but its pretty hard to advance SS kite design by making them more complicated. We have to wait and see if his ideas for slats and half-pipes really work better enough to justify the increased cost required, compared to simpler models.


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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19773 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Re: SYSTEM AND PROCESS FOR MANAGING AND CONTROLLING THE FLIGHT OF WI
This latest KiteGen "stem" patent repeats the problematic idea (that TUDelft also painfully explored) that dangling the kite near the surface, where winds are weaker and flukier, is a sound launch solution. Blowers are seen, but KiteGen is known to have had problems making them work. Massimo's claim to have the most AWE patents may be true, but there is very little evidence that his design schemes really work. We are waiting for KiteGen "superwing" videos for about two years now, but new patents, not so much...


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Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19774 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: As AWE patent-thicket worsens, the need for pooled IP grows
Joe's latest harvest of new AWE patents shows multiple trends. There are ever more patents, but quality is progressively lower, since the best ideas are mainly older. Confusion is compounded by the shear number of new patents to keep up with. This is how pressure grows for pooling IP.
Group: AirborneWindEnergy Message: 19775 From: dave santos Date: 3/5/2016
Subject: Born Kite's new high-AR SS power wing
Good review, nice kite by Steffan, but not yet clearly superior to its NPW parent-