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Nov. 6, 2020, post by Dave Santos
The other AWEurope Issue- AWES Classification Restriction

Jochem,

As you are aware, AWEurope is pushing IEA Wind TEM#102 AWES classification to only match tired 
controlling-member down-selects of single-line single unit-kite topology, that is desperately unscalable 
and dangerous by the data, but hundreds of millions have been raised over two decades.

There are several brilliant EU players with multi-line multi-unit lattice network topologies, with safe scaling potential.
In fact, Wubbo Ockels, the EU AWE pioneer, championed multi-line multi-unit concepts from the start, to premature death.
Rod Read has been the top EU developer-advocate of Kite Networks since Wubbo. 
TUKaiserslautern is a formidable kite network group. Stig Neilsen is very talented in multiline (arch) AWES..

Rod can speak to AWEurope's ontological omission of Kite Networks. He has already done so in social media. His is 
caught in the middle between AWEurope dead-enders and kite network potential. Roland can answer to why 
topological AWES classification is not being done by AWEurope.

The TEM Task Proposal with your name on it not only favors AWEurope politically, but also presents a disastrously restricted 
AWES classification. AWEurope is exploiting your relative lack of AWE background to unduly promote its investments

Once again, DOE must decide: whether to bake-in AWEurope insider interests, or broaden its AWE research-design 
scope to the objective engineering-science opportunity.
Nov 3, 2020, post by Dave Santos
WaveBob and EERE- US AWE R&D Context

Note to DOE/EERE/NREL- 

Joe and I don't do hidden process, under open-knowledge principles, but include all parties as we research AWE. We understand this is not how most folks in Gov or Biz operate, but helps keep us best-informed.

The context here is historic DOE/EERE/NREL neglect of US AWE R&D Community, which dates back 40yrs, after Loyd published his classic AWE paper from DOE Livermore Lab in 1980, but nothing effective ever happened since. Five years into DOE Wind Roadmap calling for "revolutionary" AWE R&D, nothing again.

It seems culturally accepted if EERE favors EU ventures in speculative prematurely down-selected and over-scaled energy engineering science. WaveBob of Ireland is just one past case (see below). AWEurope is a new multi-case firing up. WaveBob's CTO has been put in charge of "representing" US AWE Community to IEA, under AWEurope's undue lead. Our AWE Community already starts disadvantaged, by decades of official neglect. While EERE was supporting WindBob, WindLift (USMC) and eWind (USDA) have been comparable multi-million US Gov AWE R&D failure cases.

------------ WaveBob EERE AWE case-base item --------------

Jochem Weber, former WaveBob "Head of Research", current "chief engineer of NREL's Water Power Program" (NREL  webpage), assigned to lead AWE R&D at NREL, and as US DOE IEA Wind TEM#102 AWE lead.

2.4M total invested by EERE in WaveBob, as it sank. 

Nobody even knew linear-generators were no-go, as DOE millions began flowing. All EEs should know linear generators stink.
 
Wave Power and AWE should be perfected at small-scale first, by a large inclusive academic and domain-expert community.

Lobbying, VCs, and Grantsmanship should not be favored in early-stage R&D.


https://www.energy.gov/eere/water/downloads/wavebob-trl-5-6-system-advanced-wave-energy-conversion-project

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Compare with DOE Zoi, Felker, and Hartney AWE cases.

Nov. 3, 2020
Publicly Documenting Unrepresented US and World AWE Perspectives in IEA Wind TEM#102

Dear Jochem, Nicolas, Kristian,

For the AWE Open Record, for JoeF to publicly archive, where is the hidden "discussion" Nicolas refers to below, and who were the "US IEA Wind representatives" cited?

"I have brought your name (Santos) to the attention of the US IEA Wind representatives in order to discuss accommodating you as a last minute participant. After discussion, they agreed that there will be a sufficient number of US experts"

Both Joe and I applied early to TEM#102, but both of us were shuffled-out, in separate actions by different pretexts. Its crazy if the US "agreed" there was "a sufficient number of US experts", given how AWEurope packed inclusion (eg. more Netherlands than US participation). Nor are the "US experts" broadly representative.*

As everyone should know, most US and World AWE players and perspectives are currently excluded from TEM#102*. Its unclear whether AWEurope is controlling NREL to suppress equitable US representation, and if secret IEA Wind TEM#102 process is to be the Norm. These are legitimate DOE/EERE/NREL. US AWE, and World AWE Community concerns to put behind us, or continue to dispute.

Sincerely,

Santos


* Established AWEurope Tokens in TEM#102- Makani (dead), Altaeros (dead, ChrisV), and WIndLift (doomed, Makani WIng7 clone) are all losing US players, by premature down-select. Such parties are not "sufficient" US AWE representation. kPower has been boycotting AWEurope conference monopoly for several years. Joe and I started AWE conferences (with PJ and CA) in US in 2009, and embraced EU conference rotation (2011).
Nov. 3, 2020, post by Dave Santos

Email trails particularly for Jochem's (DOE/NREL) records, in the context of skewed and shriveled US/World participation in IEA Wind TEM#102, in favor of AWEurope's VC biases.

The TEM#102 Task Proposal now reflects AWEurope-imposed technical and political imbalance, with official NREL complicity. Please correct the off-course direction of TEM#102.
Alameda Sun Community Newspaper's Makani Debriefing

MAKANI ENERGY LOST ITS GREEN

Thursday, October 29, 2020
Richard Bangert

“The accident underscored a feature of Makani’s technology that has led experts to question why [Makani founders] Brin and Page had so much faith in the concept,” stated Deign. “Out of all the possible ways to make an airborne wind engine, Makani’s was perhaps among the most complicated.”
Potential:        NREL AWE Workshop                  ???????

dave santos
10:20 AM of Oct 29, 2020
to Joe, Weber, Smith

Joe,
NREL AWE Workshop is news. It may not be approved, or could just be a fizzle (trivial content by non-experts).
If NREL was bold, they would host an AWEC, but they are timid so far. There are also DOE anti-foreigner-barriers.
An ideal AWE agenda is a historic visionary engineering-science outline, with highly technical debate encouraged.
To be true AWE Workshop, there should be actual hands-on programming, from benchtop to outdoor-scale demos.

Jochem, Brian,
Hoping for far more than AWEurope-Marketing level of discourse from NREL, without any undue compromise.
Colorado Winter, plus Pandemic, not great Workshop timing...

ds
October 23, 2020
Dear US Gov,

Given kPower is excluded in TEM#102, under AWEurope's venture-insider politics, and given DOE/EE/NREL/NWTC are only now undertaking due-diligence to achieve AWE domain expertise, TEM#102 participation is an ideal second track for kPower to make a timely expert contribution to IEA Wind.

kPower has always had the deepest Aerospace background in US AWE, with longstanding working relations to the US FAA, Boeing, AOPA, ALPA, EAA, USHPA, AKA, AMA, etc; essentially every relevant aviation community.

kPower's 2012 Tethered Aviation ConOps, authored by JoeF and me, remains the most authoritative and comprehensive document of of AWE-Aviation integration. AWE itself is a new branch of aviation, and TEM#100 is an obvious forum for the US AWE to play a leadership role. JoeF and I are also well versed in conventional wind aviation issues as possible airspace hazards, radar-clutter, and so on.

kPower will continue to advocate for a broader AWE classification for TEM#102 (many-connected many-unit AWES network topologies), for renewed US AWEC conferences, and for a Grand Challenge Fly-off; all of which AWEurope opposes, now with probable NREL acquiescence.

Thanks for considering kPower as a US participant in TEM#100.

Best,

Dave Santos
Joe Faust

kPower
AWEIA
KiteLabs Group
Etc.
                     TEM#100 on Aviation System Cohabitation

                     Tethered Aviation ConOps (TACO) v.1.0

Oct. 12, 2020, post by Dave Santos
NREL AWE Due Diligence   

Dear Jochem,
       It is going to take much convincing that Google/AWEurope's high-complexity "Energy Drone" paradigm was known unworkable (unscalable, dangerous, weak, expensive, crash-prone, noisy, etc.) by the US aerospace community as early as 2009. You seem to be the in-house NREL scientist ready to judge Energy Drone data by TRL/TPL data now publicly available. AWE is not really like wind turbines bolted to a pole.

"Rag and String" power kites driving groundgens is the competing AWE paradigm. There is ample data and similarity cases, and a lot of TRL9 COTS examples to study. There is a large "hidden" AWE R&D community that does not play the venture-capitalism game like the major-funded players.   Ampyx is the next major high-complexity player predicted doomed, even as AWEurope marketing puts them first.

 As you may understand, DOE upper managers will struggle to see past Energy Drone hype and the weird illusion that US AWE hardly even exists. Note TUK DE, SkySails, and other fine EU players have quietly worked for years with their US counterparts on the low-complexity concept side. You will soon see extensive listings of these overlooked players and compended documentation, from classics to prepublication.

Below are selected slides of the overlooked "Cinderella" AWE paradigm. Review the dozens sent earlier. if you missed them. kPower is preparing a full slide show for DOE and other decision makers. Its going to be very exciting to undergo a rigorous scoring matrix and fly-off process that compares Energy Drones with Rag and String. Please particularly note predictive power-to-mass, and emerging mega-scale AWES topologies.

Best,
Santos

Unit cell
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October 9, 2020, post by Dave Santos
US DOE News, Lattice-Cell Unit-Kite Motions, String-Net Condensates, Comb-Jellies, Bulk Traveling Wave


Very good progress with US DOE by many emails, phone-calls, and a videoconference yesterday. Ironically, AWEurope's IEA TEM#102 initiative has finally woken up US gov. The multi-r "Rag and String" paradigm is looking very very good after the shock of GoogleX's "Energy Drone" failure. There will be two EU-US collaboration tracks based on these two paradigms, which will ultimately sim-off and fly-off competitively.
 Next Post more detail.


======== ongoing unit-cell and meta-kite analysis ========

A Short-Lined Kite's Power Zone is highly-curved, and the Kite is proportionally very large in relation to its window. The associated Loop or Lemiscate is very tight, more of a waggle-motion than a figure. The Kite turns nearly in place to Loop and the Lemiscate is reduced to a Dutch Roll motion, with the center-of-area inscribing the eight; the kite only turning small angles. 

The key insight is to work out the motion state-space in all six dimensions in relation to AoA in apparent wind (wind velocity + kite velocity). Already there is a critical torsional mode long overlooked that needs to be accounted for geometrically and at least passive elastically. Next Post more detail.

=====  Supportive Reference Note =====

(Kite Networks of Rotary or Reciprocating units have many identical and similar properties. Reciprocation is Rotation in Phase-Space. This reference for Rotary Unit Networks cites key advantages applicable to Reciprocation as well)

Tensile rotary power transmission model development for airborne wind energy systems

[Tulloch et al, 2020]


Redacted for generality-

"AWE systems (that) use multiple wings...networked together...under development as they have numerous advantages...Networking wings together constrains an individual wing’s flight path. This simplifies the control requirements for each wing and for the system as a whole. There are...AWE systems that have reliably generated power with no active control in place. The networked wings provide the system with a level of redundancy...fewer single points of failure making them safer and more robust to environmental uncertainties, combined with less requirements for active control...systems being more inherently stable..."


====== Interdisciplinary Mathematical Physics ======

String-Net Condensed Matter Physics applies to kitematter, as the engineered metamaterial scale-limit. Lots of useful concepts and math-

https://arxiv.org/pdf/0801.0861.pdf

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Another rich Biomimetic Similarity Case- semi-passive synchrony of Comb-Jellyfish Locomotion. A special Ligand Protein regulates lattice waves by topological-ordering. 

CTENO64 Is Required for Coordinated Paddling of Ciliary Comb Plate in Ctenophores

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Cybernetical physics

Same concept space as Embodied Logic or Computation, same AWES paradigm as Passive or Dynamic Stability.


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Traveling Wave Mode- wave acquires energy as it travels downwind. Passive oscillation. One of many possible modes for Multi-r.

Flag of Thailand slow motion

----- Network Theory Note ------

WP: "The scale-free (network) property strongly correlates with the network's robustness to failure. It turns out that the major hubs are closely followed by smaller ones. These smaller hubs, in turn, are followed by other nodes with an even smaller degree and so on. This hierarchy allows for a fault tolerant behavior. If failures occur at random and the vast majority of nodes are those with small degree, the likelihood that a hub would be affected is almost negligible."

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      G. K. Chesterton- “We perish for want of wonder, not want of wonders.”


Airborne Wind Energy in CIP mix?   


Hi Ian, Kyndall,                             Oct. 9, 2020

JimA, BrianS, Jochem, BretB, MikeD, and a few others have discussed how NREL might fire up some AWE R&D. The CIP program was cited as an early opportunity. 

The scope of NREL AWE work starts at pre-prototype/prototype stage, with Optimal Research Design as the planning challenge, rather than premature productization. Distributed Wind AWE is an early deliverable for research ultimately aimed at utility scale. In particular, there are poor remote under-employed diesel-dependent communities in Polar and Trade-Wind Latitudes, that would be eager Beta adopter communities.

The highest TRL/TPL AWE paradigm is to harness COTS power-kites to drive generators. Its feasible to prototype kite-diesel hybrid plants at small scale. The scaling path points to large arrays of ship-kite power-kite derivatives to someday soon hybridize legacy fossil plants. All essential components are COTS. Its a topological optimal-rigging and kite operational challenge more than anything.

In 2007, kPower emerged from KiteShip, the world's first AWE venture. We incubated at UTexas and SwRI, and won early grant support by Austin Energy. There is decades of research to activate. Our engineering network includes all the top players in the power-kite AWE space. The competing "Energy Drone" paradigm is far behind in every TRL/TPL metric. We look forward to talking soon by phone and sharing more details online.

NREL and DOE ultimately need to program for AWE R&D in a major way. A fast-track AWE CIP project may greatly help make that happen.

Best,

Dave Santos
Joe Faust
Ed Sapir

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Oct 9, 2020

Dave

Thank you and your colleagues for meeting wih us on Thursday. Our objective was to learn about the state of the airborne wind industry and what the R&D needs are.  As was discussed, DOE does not currently have an R&D initiative in airborne wind.  Our priorities are for reducing cost and mitigating deployment barriers for conventional wind turbines, although we did cite the Competitiveness Improvement Project as a potential opportunity.  Note that DOE priorities are highly driven by the appropriations process and Congressional direction.  With regard to airborne wind R&D needs, we will keep you in the loop for the proceedings from the recent IEA expert meeting on the subject.

 Jim

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Jim,

Nobody is more aware than the US AWE domain experts that DOE has nothing going in AWE R&D. DOE priority given to conventional wind is strongly driven by the Big Wind Lobby. Its agreed that pioneering AWE engineering science is anything but a DOE priority.

We interpret DOE Mission Statements as the established will of Congress and believe DOE could duly address AWE R&D in that context. We see very little potential for the "IEA expert meeting" to amount to a US AWE R&D strategy, given the lack of a coherent US AWE R&D policy.

As Joe suggested in the videoconference, China is the probable dominant player in AWE, based on its +2000yr kite heritage and patent explosion. They already lead in installed conventional wind even, and may undersell DOE's best conventional wind "competitiveness" intent.

Its a very dramatic energy race against EU and China players. No one naively over-estimates DOE. We may not even get ~20k for a US AWE conference, when DOE has done countless conferences historically. Even relegating US AWE to NREL's small-turbine CIP track is perhaps too much.

dave
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Hi Dave and Jim - 

 

Adding Patrick Gilman from DOE to the thread for his reference..

 

Specifically relating to CIP, the solicitation that NREL implements for the Wind Office is technology neutral but as its name implies it is focused around improving technology, not conducting research.

 

Here is the link to the CIP web page at NREL: https://www.nrel.gov/wind/competitiveness-improvement-project.html. This includes the basic information and a link to a fact sheet about the project about half way down. At the bottom of the page there is a link to a workshop presentation that took place last fall that provides more information about the initiative. For easy reference here is the link: https://www.nrel.gov/wind/assets/pdfs/cip-workshop-2020.pdf. We are planning to hold a similar virtual workshop this fall if you are interested. There is no active solicitation currently, but you can look at the one from last year to get more of the details. https://beta.sam.gov/opp/2600b3e016f04dbb9615f3a2d0fe6817/view

 

As you will see the CIP effort is really designed around helping manufactures of distributed wind technology through the development process, from early design through product manufacturing innovation. It also supports companies that want to innovate around a current turbine design.  The earliest stage support that was implemented last year was a pre-prototype technology development topical areas, which was targeted to help companies that has a demonstrated technology but need help to get to a prototype design stage. It again is not focused around research, more final prototype design specification and as needed component prototype testing.

 

Please note that one of the key aspects of CIP is that companies need to show the near term impact on the distributed wind market. We don’t have many requirements around what people can propose but to be successful based on the evaluation criteria the technology needs to be near market ready, within the competitive cost of technology on the market for the target application and be able to document a near term path to certification. Since we don’t have a solicitation open, I would be happy to have a call with you to further discuss how your technology may fit into CIP.

 

I know this may not be the fit you are looking for, but please don’t hesitate to reach out if you have additional questions.

 

Best regards,

     Ian

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Thanks Ian,

We all agree NREL's small-turbine distributed-wind CIP framework is a bad fit for neglected US AWE R&D.

What was specifically requested of DOE was ~20k for a US AWE Conference (AWEC2021SeaTac at Boeing MoF), since EU has for eight long years taken over AWE conferences the US AWE Community started. AWEC2021SeaTac could unlock massive BEV funding and lead to an AWE Grand Challenge according to Optimal Research criteria.

NASA and NOAA are two other AWE-applicable US Gov Agencies. Maybe 20k for AWEC2021SeaTac could be cobbled together by all three Agencies. The funds could go directly to MoF, as a public non-profit venue. The funds could be repaid from registrations. Given the long US AWE Conference drought, we think it could be huge.
    ~ dave